hi im back again
i ve been able to get back to henry harnett born 1599 to 1632, he married mary abbott born 1598 to 1692, she remarried in 1632 to edward wilde
mary abbotts father was called laurence abbott born about 1570 but i can find no birth record but i have records of his death in 1625 great mongeham kent
there is also a death record for his wife "ales", i know this to probs be alice, she died in 1617, it says wife of laurence abbott on it
i also have laurence abbott s fam tree from kent tyler index it also states on there that his wife was called "alea" but unfortunately it gives no maiden name
now the same thing has happened to me that happened in another line of my fam tree, loads of other trees on ancestry all had the same info that laurence abbotts wife was called ales crayford or crafford and because they were all saying the same i put the info into my tree, only to discover that the crayford and crispe family were very well to do, even part of henry viii royal house hold, that set alarm bells so i started looking at it by my own deductions
for one ales crayford was born in 1585 so seeing as her "supposed" husband laurence abbott s first child was born in 1592 it would be impossible for her to be the mother
and for 2 i found a fam tree for the craffords family and it says ales crayford married john merywether in 1613, this would fit right as it would make her 28 when married, there is no mention of her marrying a laurence abbott, and also my ales dies as ales abbott
but it really annoys me that theres 20 plus fam trees on ancestry saying that the laurence abbott lineage runs into the crayfords when it just does nt add up,
i think there maybe a connection somewhere as sir robert crayford land is mentioned in laurences will being left to his son and they are all from great mongeham ??
if anyone is on ancestry my tree is called "allen-hooligan" as i ve said, for now i ve left the crayford part on it even though its not right but if you put in laurence abbott, all after him is correct but not the before, but i can find no marriage cert for him and "ales" so can go no further back, they were well off, i know this seams to help when finding records
im now going to paste the info on the crayfords that makes it impossible for ales crayford to be laurences wife, sorry for being soooooooooo long winded, again any help or thoughts most welcome
CRAYFORD OF MONGHAM MAGNA, CRAYFORD, CO. KENT.
William Crafford, living temp. Hen. IV., married and had a son, viz.
:
Guy Crafford, who married and had issue, viz.
:
John Crayfford, of Mongham Magna, who married a dau. of — Monyngs,
and had issue, viz.
:
John Crayford, who married about 1450 the dau. and heir of Edward Wood,
of London, and had issue, viz.
:
John Crayiord, Usher of the Privy Chamber to Henry VIII., and married
Margaret, dau. of John Crypse, of Thanet, and had issue, viz.
:
Edward Crayford, who married Mary, dau. and heir of Henry Atsee, of
Heme, and had issue, viz.
:
I. WilHam, of whom afterwards.
II. Millicent, married Vincent Wotton.
III. Margaret, married — Fix.
William Crayford, Sir, Knt., married Anne, dau. of John Norton, of London,
and Co. Suffolk. She died 26th May, 1624. He died 15th August, 1623,
aged 68 years, leaving issue, viz.
:
I. Edward, who died during his father's lifetime, married Anne, dau. of
Sir Rowland Haywood, Knt., Lord Mayor of London, and had issue,viz.
:
(i) William. (2) George. (3) Richard. (4) John. (5) Anne,
II. Thomas, d. s. p.
III. Sir William, Knt., married Margaret, dau. of Abraham Campion, of
London.
IV. John, d. s. p.
V. Robert.
VI. Richard, d. s. p.
VII. Anne, married, first, John Warren, of Ripple, and secondly, Edward
Boys, of Godmanston.
94 HISTORY OF MAUNSELL, OR MANSEL.
VIII. Elizabeth, married William Boeteler, of Higham Abbey, Estry, near
Rochester.
IX. Margaret, d. s. p.
X. Allice, married John Merywether, of Sheppards Well, Kent. ( ales abbott ?? ) *
XI. Affra or Aphra, married Capt. Thomas Maunsell, R.N., of Vandy (de
la vache), Co. Bucks, and Derryvillane, Co. Cork, for issue of which
see account "Maunsell," page 42.
