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Re: Thomas Nicol - Sailmaker in Montrose during 1800s
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 20:00 GMT (UK) »
On the death cert it says she was 72, so that was wrong. But good spot re 76, I have looked at the record and although on the search result it states 72, it easily could be a 6 and not a 2.

Re Thomas, I noticed on some census records that some people were recorded if at sea, but it certainly may explain why they were in Ferry Port and then Charlotte and the kids returned to Montrose.

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Re: Thomas Nicol - Sailmaker in Montrose during 1800s
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 20:34 GMT (UK) »
On the death cert it says she was 72, so that was wrong. But good spot re 76,

The age on any DC can vary by several years as it's the informant who gives the details, not the person who's deceased i.e not always too accurate.

Is it possible to post a clip of the DC for us to see who the informant is please (how it was recorded) but can you widen it for formation comparison)?

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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

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Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: Thomas Nicol - Sailmaker in Montrose during 1800s
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 20:57 GMT (UK) »
The only concern with this is that if the signature is that of David, then he has spelt his name Nichol.

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Re: Thomas Nicol - Sailmaker in Montrose during 1800s
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 21:05 GMT (UK) »
I haven't had time yet to look at it but as Forfarian has already pointed out, forget spelling!!!

I have a family with no less than 12 variations of the spelling i.e. if I was to go with 1 spelling I would still be at stage 1 in my research  ;D

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: Thomas Nicol - Sailmaker in Montrose during 1800s
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 21:10 GMT (UK) »
The informant is definitely;

David Nichol
Son
11 John Street, Montrose

He may be there either side of date on census 1871/1881?

With what you have for his family, this should confirm?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Thomas Nicol - Sailmaker in Montrose during 1800s
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 21:27 GMT (UK) »
Tell me about it with the spelling, I've spent my life spelling my name to people only to watch them get it wrong!!

Confirmed on 1881 census David Nichol aged 45 born Tayport (Ferryport). I am happy that I have got good confirmation re Thomas Jnr and his mother Charlotte. The problem still remains re Thomas Snr, I think Forfarian is likely right re death at sea or like. I have got to look again re likely candidate to identify birth and parents.

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Re: Thomas Nicol - Sailmaker in Montrose during 1800s
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 21:44 GMT (UK) »
Looks as though it says Merchant Services?

Have you looked for his Merchant Seaman's Records?

May be worth finding them.

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: Thomas Nicol - Sailmaker in Montrose during 1800s
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 21:47 GMT (UK) »
I used to know someone named Hamish Nicol

Deleted rest as I think now it may have been McNicol?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Thomas Nicol - Sailmaker in Montrose during 1800s
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 21:51 GMT (UK) »
I see that Charlotte is described as a pauper on her death certificate. This has a very specific implication, which is that she was on the Register of Poor and in receipt of relief from the Parochial Board.

If the Parochial Board records have survived, you will find they contain a lot of detail about her, which could include, for instance, where her husband was born.

Start with Angus Archives http://www.angus.gov.uk/info/20369/archives/215/angus_archives and see if the Montrose Parochial Board records have survived.
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