Author Topic: Thomas Nicol - Sailmaker in Montrose during 1800s  (Read 5020 times)

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Re: Thomas Nicol - Sailmaker in Montrose during 1800s
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 22:17 GMT (UK) »
Annie - My user name is Hamish but I am James and surname has been Nicoll since Thomas Jnr changed it in the 1850s apparently!!

Forfarian - That's great info I will look at that.

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Re: Thomas Nicol - Sailmaker in Montrose during 1800s
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 23:08 GMT (UK) »
The death cert for Jane Nicol(l) (Sharp) was interesting. It shows Thomas Junior to be her widower. But in the informant section it reads Thomas Nicoll (and what appears to be) father of widower. Now as it has been rightly pointed out that cannot be because Thomas senior had already died, plus he spelt his name Nicol not Nicoll (but we know about spelling issues). I am sure the informant is actually her husband Thomas Junior.

Can you do same please with a clip of image of DC for us to see who's the informant, the wording?

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Re: Thomas Nicol - Sailmaker in Montrose during 1800s
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 23 February 17 13:46 GMT (UK) »
Clip as requested

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Re: Thomas Nicol - Sailmaker in Montrose during 1800s
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 23 February 17 13:54 GMT (UK) »
Looks as if Thomas Nicol's relationship is recorded as (Father) Widower.

Clearly, he can't be Jane Sharp's father, whose name was John Sharp. Nor can he be Thomas' father, because we know that Thomas' mother was a widow by 1851. So it's a bit curious that he should be thus recorded. Maybe an error by the Registrar?

I notice that the name is spelled with only one l. If Thomas Jr had deliberately added a second l in 1855, why did he sign his name with only one in 1892?
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Re: Thomas Nicol - Sailmaker in Montrose during 1800s
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 23 February 17 13:57 GMT (UK) »
I agree I think it should just be widower and it is her husband. I thought the same re the one L, which was why I initially believed it was Thomas Snr.

Re Charlotte she died in the Poor House in Montrose, it appears records probably exist, but they may be locked.

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Re: Thomas Nicol - Sailmaker in Montrose during 1800s
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 23 February 17 14:12 GMT (UK) »
Re Charlotte she died in the Poor House in Montrose, it appears records probably exist, but they may be locked.
Shouldn't be - she died well over 100 years ago, which is the normal cut-off date.
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Re: Thomas Nicol - Sailmaker in Montrose during 1800s
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 23 February 17 14:15 GMT (UK) »
Ive posed that question to the archives people, see what comes back.

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Re: Thomas Nicol - Sailmaker in Montrose during 1800s
« Reply #34 on: Friday 24 February 17 12:39 GMT (UK) »
Reply from archives - No poor records for Charlotte.

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Re: Thomas Nicol - Sailmaker in Montrose during 1800s
« Reply #35 on: Friday 24 February 17 14:58 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear  :(

But it was worth asking.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.