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1890 Lancashire Colloquial Term??
« on: Tuesday 21 February 17 18:36 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

In the news article from the Liverpool Mercury, 2 August 1890, outlining the trial of John Pickavance, it refers to a number of his family members having a number of issues such as being deaf and mute and also mentions his uncle, as a 'softy'.  Can anyone tell me what this means?  In the paper, it refers to the word as a Lancashire colloquial term.  I tried to attach the article but it is a PDF and too large of a file; it is also an incredibly long article!

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Re: 1890 Lancashire Colloquial Term??
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 21 February 17 19:18 GMT (UK) »
It could mean 'soft in the head' = daft
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Re: 1890 Lancashire Colloquial Term??
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 21 February 17 21:30 GMT (UK) »
Thank you!  I thought it may have referred to daft or weak minded but as the article said a Lancashire colloquial term, I wasn't sure.
Names:  Laidlaw, Alexander, Park, Templeton, Hood, Sanderson, Fairbairn, Davidson, Delgatty, Greig
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Re: 1890 Lancashire Colloquial Term??
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 February 17 23:00 GMT (UK) »
When I was young in the 1940s we used to call anyone who cried if they fell over, or if they were teased etc.  a softy, so the term had obviously become more widely used then and didn't have it's original meaning.

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Re: 1890 Lancashire Colloquial Term??
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 00:33 GMT (UK) »
Samuel Laycock 1826-1893
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Re: 1890 Lancashire Colloquial Term??
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 18:49 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for your input.  I still question the actual meaning.  If it was specifically a Lancashire colloquial term, in the context of where I saw the word used, I'm wondering if it meant something more derogatory?
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Re: 1890 Lancashire Colloquial Term??
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 18:52 GMT (UK) »
My parents came from Lancashire but we lived in Cheshire and everyone used the term "softy".  We would say "Don't be such a softy" when a child was whingeing, or if they were frightened of a dog or something, in fact I used to say it to my children and they, in their turn, said it to their children - or even to their dogs.  So in that way it was derogatory but not in the way of meaning someone who was mentally ill.

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Re: 1890 Lancashire Colloquial Term??
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 18:59 GMT (UK) »
My experience growing up in Lancashire was same as Lizzie. I understood the meaning in the  Samuel Laycock poem was the same.
Liverpool people may have had their own version.
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