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Sam Germaine
« on: Wednesday 22 February 17 03:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I'm a decendent of Sam Germaine who had a daughter named Anne Ann Germaine ,married name Millman, I'm her great great granddaughter, but there's no mother is she from Germany?
As she came to Australia by boat from Germany in 1849

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Re: Re: FALK family members deceased in SA
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 04:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Anseter  :)

Welcome to rootschat  :).

Is there a connection to the FALK family? 

If not you should make a new topic.  I can ask a moderator to do this for you if you wish.

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Re: Re: FALK family members deceased in SA
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 04:19 GMT (UK) »
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As she came to Australia by boat from Germany in 1849

Can you give me the source of this information please.

A bit about Samuel....
From the Biographical Index of South Australians - a good resource but there are omissions and errors.

GERMEIN Samuel parents John and Christina born 1818 England and died 16 Apr 1886.
Buried Cheltenham Cemetery SA.
Arrived 1837 on the SOUTH AUSTRALIAN
Occupation Seaman, Pilot
Lived at Pt Adelaide, Semaphore
Religion Presbyterian
Married 10 Aug 1855 Semaphore SA, Mary Ann nee NICHOLS born 1830 England and died 20 Sep 1913.
Children Saml Joseph 1855-1923, Eliza Mary COBLEY 1856-, Mary Isabella 1859-, Emily 1861-, Sarah Ann 1865-, John Wm 1867-1870, Emma Isabella 1871-.

GERMEIN Samuel (brother of John) arrived in SA  22 Apr 1837 aboard South Australian from Plymouth

Passenger list at State Library of SA
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/BSA/1837SouthAustralian.htm

Marriage
GERMAN Samuel  36 years  Status Single  Father unrecorded [not recorded until 1856 in South Australia]
MANNERS Mary Ann  24 years  Status Single  Father unrecorded.
2 Aug 1852
At Holy Trinity Church, Adelaide   Ade 5/144
 
Second marriage and he hasn't aged!!!!
GERMAINE Samuel  36 years  Status not recorded  Father unrecorded
NICHOLLS  Mary Ann  25 years  Status not recorded  Father unrecorded
10 Jul 1855
At the residence of Samuel Germaine, Lefevre Peninsula   Ade A 23/197
 
Marriage and if her age is accurate she was born c1846.

MILLMAN Alfred George  26 years  Status not recorded  Father George Frederick MILLMAN
GERMAINE Anne  20 years  Status not recorded  Father Sam GERMAINE
26 Dec 1866
At Methodist New Connexion Church, Franklin St Adelaide   Ade 69/157

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article41024126
The South Australian Register Sat 29 Dec 1866
MILLMAN-GERMAINE -On the 26th December, at the Methodist New Connexion Church,
Franklin-street, by licence, by the Rev. James Maughan, Alfred George Millman, cooper, to
Anne Germaine, both of Adelaide.


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Re: Re: FALK family members deceased in SA
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 05:31 GMT (UK) »
I can't see where your Anne born c1846 'fits in'.

Sam's parents
GERMEIN  John born c1781  and died 23 April 1869  Buried Alberton SA
Arrived 1840 on the JAVA
Occupation Compass Maker, Flock Maker
Lived Kangaroo Island, Osborne, Pt Adelaide, Largs Bay
Religion Church of England
Married Christina born c1786 and died 2 Jan 1867 Pt Adelaide SA
Children Anne, Thirza DODDRIDGE 1809-1881, John 1812-1879, Eliza WILLS 1817-1865, Samuel 1819-1886, Benjamin 1824-1893.

http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/BSA/1840Java-PassengerLists.htm

Their marriage
GERMAIN John
EASTON Christiana
19 Jan 1807 at Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
FHL Film Number - 916924

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Re: Re: FALK family members deceased in SA
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 09:28 GMT (UK) »
Annie now has a year of birth as c1849.

Marriage
DUNNING James 52 years  Status Widower  Father William DUNNING
MILLMAN Annie  44 years  Status Widow   Father Samuel GERMAIN
23 Dec 1893
At the residence of Mrs Millman, Kapunda   Kap 177/968

Death
DUNNING James  58 years  Status not recorded  Relative not recorded
8 Dec 1896
Residence Near Kapunda   Death Place Near Kapunda  Kap 239/339

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article45554715
The Barrier Miner 9 Apr 1921

BURGESS.The FRIENDS of Mr. and Mrs. A. T. BYRNE and Mr. and Mrs. J. A. MILLMAN and
FAMILIES are respectfully informed that the Funeral of their late Beloved MOTHER, MOTHER-IN-LAW, and GRANDMOTHER (Annie Burgess) will leave her son-in-law's (Mr. A. T. Byrne) residence, 294 Galena-street (off Silverton-road), TO-MORROW (Sunday), at 3.30 p.m., for the Salvation Army Cemetery.
D. B. MANGELSDORF,
'Phone 132. Undertaker.

BURGESS-The FRIENDS of Mr. and Mrs. E WHITE (of Semaphore), Mr. and Mrs. W. TABOR
(of Birkenhead), Mr. and Mrs. W. HAZEAL (of Rosewater), and Mr. and Mrs. W. KELLY (of Perth) are respectfully informed that the Funeral of their late Beloved MOTHER, MOTHER-IN-LAW, and GRAND-MOTHER (Annie Burgess) will leave 294 Galena-street (or Silverton-road)
TO-MORROW (Sunday), at 3.30 p.m., for the Salvation Army Cemetery.
D. B. MANGELSDORF,

Interred in the Methodist Section of the Broken Hill Cemetery
BURGESS    Annie      Methodist    METH M4    P 39   10 Apr 1921       

Death NSW
7640/1921
BURGESS Annie
Father GERMAINE   72 years at  Broken Hill
District Broken Hill

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Re: Re: FALK family members deceased in SA
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 10:02 GMT (UK) »
Is this Annie re-marrying?

2958/1897
DUNNING Annie
IRWIN Nathaniel
District Broken Hill

Death
12486/1899
IRWIN Nathaniel    Age 56 years  Died Broken Hill

Interred in the Broken Hill Cemetery - I have found a lot of their records have errors and are incomplete.
IRWIN    M ??   General    GENE UNKN    1 100    28 Oct 1899
District Broken Hill

Marriage
3391/1901
BURGESS Adam
IRWIN Annie
District Broken Hill

Death
14236/1916
BURGESS Adam 
Father William  Mother Mary A
District Broken Hill

Interred in the Broken Hill Cemetery
BURGESS    Adam     General    GENE N 32    26 Jul 1916    

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Re: Sam Germaine
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 10:26 GMT (UK) »
Hello Anseter,

Welcome to RootsChat :)

I have just split off your post into a new topic for your line of research.

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Re: Sam Germaine
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 12:09 GMT (UK) »
Anseter you have two opportunities to find the name of Annie's mother. 

She married twice in New South Wales and the name of her mother should be on both those marriage certificates.  In New South Wales you are able to purchase transcriptions of certificates from three accredited agents who visit the BDM Registry.  The cost is usually around $20 and much cheaper than the certified certificate.  Information is the same.  The transcription is emailed to you.

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx#transcription

Cheers  :)
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