John Vincent Batty - 1909 Wakefield - 1987 Hull

[sjjs12]

I am trying to find out more about my great uncle, John Vincent Batty who was born in Wakefield in 1909 and died in Hull in 1987.
He appears to have been a "Jack the lad" breaking up two marriages (with an Emma Gaunt and a Beatrice Walford) - his second wife (Beatrice) - he married in 1942 and the couple appear to have adopted 2 children (although one "may" may have been from Beatrices former marriage !
I am trying to obtain any info on the two children - are they still alive ?
Also - when did Beatrice die ?
To add to the confusion - John Vincent Batty - may have been known as Jack (although no deed poll was registered) and also his probate has his surname as Battye (extra "e" at the end)
According to his Neice - he sold DIAMONDS and drove an expensive car !
He was a police war reservist in 1939 and no children were registered as living with him and Beatrice at this time...

[KGarrad]

Welcome to RootsChat!

To start with, Jack is a well-known derivative of John!
Secondly you do NOT need a deed poll in order to change your name?!
Under the laws of England & Wales, a person can call themselves anything they like - just as long as there is no intention to defraud or deceive.

[Christine53]

Hello and welcome to RootsChat.

Here is a possible death for Beatrice :

Beatrice Batty b 4 Dec 1905 d Feb 1991 Beverly v7 p125.

[KGarrad]

Any records from the last 100 years are few and far between?

There are Birth, Marriage & Death records - see FreeBMD.org.uk.
Also there may be Electoral Rolls - but you would need to know where he lived?

His marriage to Emma was in 1932, in Sculcoates.
His marriage to Beatrice (maiden name Andrews?) was in 1942, in Holderness.

Maybe a look through East Riding newspapers?

[chempat]

You mentioned probate - have you got wills for him or his wife to see if the children are on them?
Death certificates might have a relative as the informant - have you applied for them?

He is in 2 trees on Ancestry - are you one of the tree owners and/or have you been in contact with them?

[sgf28]

Decree Nisi Petitons at Leeds Assizes

Eric Thomas Andrews, pianoforte salesman, Pretoria Ave, Walthamstow: misconduct of Beatrice Andrews, Inglemire Lane, Hull with John Vincent Batty, at Anlaby Lane and Inglemire Lane, Hull.

Hull Daily Mail, 19th March 1936

[sgf28]

Beatrice Walford married Eric Thomas Andrews 2nd qtr 1929 Hull

Vol:9d Page:593

[chempat]

I can only see one child for the Beatrice Walford/Eric Andrews marriage, and he died in his birth year.