healey

[Mabel Bagshawe]

I'd come to the same conclusions - worth noting that for some reason Lucy is enumerated as Ann on 1881

[breese73]

I cant find him or his other siblings on the 1871 only his parents Thomas and mary born in Ireland
and his sister Selina and brother Thomas but on the 1881 census they are all on there with more siblings just no father have I got the wrong family with john in I know Selina is right in 1871 because she is my 3 x grandmother x

[Mabel Bagshawe]

1871 - Wribbenhall, Kidderminster

John Elly    20 - b Kidderminster
Lucy Carter    23 - b Bewdley

RG10, 3036, 94, 5

the enumerator has helpfully noted her relationship to head as "cohabiting with"

presume this is your John with a very badly spelled surname!

[breese73]

hi mable could this be a new wife or could it be a middle name x

[Mabel Bagshawe]

as she goes back to Lucy on later censuses, and all the children have mother's maiden name Carter, i am assuming middle name or error on the form

[breese73]

lol ive found them with there names spelt in all ways lol thank you I'm still trying to work out if he is mine but on one of the census hes on there with a mrs lavelle who is a boarder and this could be his sister my grandmother who married Austin lavelle she was born in 1849/50 x

[Mabel Bagshawe]

I think you might have to get the marriage cert to be sure. John is fairly certain he was born in Kidderminster, but Selina is b Ireland  2 yrs earlier, and in 1871 there's a sibling Thomas also b c1850/51 b Ireland. He may have been from an extended family - I note a few Healey and similar families in the area

By the way I think Lucy is a bit loose with her age - whilst saying in most years she's b around 1848, the only Lucy Carter in Bewdley is b c1841-43 (there's a baptism in 1841, but not to say there wasn't a death and another Lucy b 1843)

I wonder if John and Lucy didn't marry until 1873 because then John would have definitely been over 21

[breese73]

hi yes Michael is the oldest x

[breese73]

the only reason I think hes mine is that he has mrs lavelle on the 1911 census who could be my grandmother she has the right birth and Austin her husband died in 1903 in the workhouse and it saya widow and working in the fields is what she did but it could just be a relative has it just says boarder and not sister x