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Scotland marriage/death search
« on: Saturday 25 February 17 00:21 GMT (UK) »
Could anyone help with a marriage search for John Mullan/Mullen/Mullin marriage to Mary Kelly/Kenny/Keatley/Kealy/Keely during 1870- 1879 please.  John was possibly a sea captain/sailor at the time of his marriage.  I am also searching for a death record for the same John, again, possibly at sea from 1892 - 1900.  John's family lived in Belfast.  Any help appreciated Many thanks VB

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Re: Scotland marriage/death search
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 25 February 17 00:29 GMT (UK) »
You can search the SP index yourself for free

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-our-records

You have to buy credits to download the cert
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Re: Scotland marriage/death search
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 25 February 17 00:58 GMT (UK) »
Thanks CaroleW, I don't have a subsciption & there are 7 records to view.  I was hoping someone may be able to help.  VB

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Re: Scotland marriage/death search
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 25 February 17 02:03 GMT (UK) »
Scotlands People is not a subscription site.  There is a free index but you have to buy credits to view or download the full record if you find a match
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Re: Scotland marriage/death search
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 25 February 17 02:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi VB,

If you have a birth of any of their kids that will give you their marriage date & place.

Have you found them on any census' which gives an area (Town & County) if you don't have any certs?

Can you name the kids in order (eldest to youngest) please with dates & where born?

There is the possibility they married in Belfast?

Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Scotland marriage/death search
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 25 February 17 02:51 GMT (UK) »
John was possibly a sea captain/sailor at the time of his marriage.

VB, What info. do you have to think that?

If you post more details on his family, it will help other researchers to identify the family as it's surprising what a 'google' search brings up & this could be of good benefit to you.

The other thing I forgot to ask, if you do have  birth certs. & a marriage date is not included (Scottish births), this would imply there was no marriage & you will find the births under both John's surname & Mary's maiden name but only if John signed at the time of their births if they were not married.

You really need to find the family on a census though & we need further info. to help with that, being as there are so many variants in their surnames....a nuisance  ???

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Scotland marriage/death search
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 25 February 17 02:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rosinish, Thank you for your reply.  Unfortunately the only birth I have is for what appears to be their first child in Dublin in 1878. All subseuent chldren weere born in Befast.  I cannot find a marriage in Ireland, England or Wales for this couple so Scotland is my last hope.  1901 Census in Ireland shows Mary, born in Dublin, widowed,  living with her daughter.  All her children's birth/baptism records show their father as sea captain or sailor.  No record of their marriage in Ireland, England or Wales, so only left with Scotland during this period as possilbe.  Any help appreciated.  VB

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 25 February 17 03:20 GMT (UK) »
You have not named the children in order with dates/places to enable any help  :-\

Do you have Mary's DC which will give informant who may have been a family member?

Narrowing down when John possibly died can help a lot.

If you have his children, their marriages, have you checked if their father was deceased when each or any married?

Their marriages will also give his occupation which may be different from the original births you found but that can also narrow down when he was alive/deceased?

Once you narrow things down, a DC can then be a focus & if the area of Belfast seemed to be their most likely residence at the time of his death that is also helpful.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Scotland marriage/death search
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 25 February 17 10:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks CaroleW, I don't have a subsciption & there are 7 records to view.  I was hoping someone may be able to help.  VB
Anyone else who looked this up for you would have to pay too.

There is an outside chance that someone might have paid and then put the details on the Scottish BDM Exchange http://www.sctbdm.com/index.php but very few people bother to do this so there are only a few available out of millions.

Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.