Author Topic: Thomas Gillespie FLEMING  (Read 2536 times)

Offline cupcake

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,090
  • My G Grandfather - Robert Johnstone Moffat
    • View Profile
Re: Thomas Gillespie FLEMING
« Reply #27 on: Monday 27 February 17 09:45 GMT (UK) »

Thought I would look at "Family Search" but, it's down for maintenance.
Moffat- Mein - Titterington - Kidman

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline cupcake

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,090
  • My G Grandfather - Robert Johnstone Moffat
    • View Profile
Re: Thomas Gillespie FLEMING
« Reply #28 on: Monday 27 February 17 10:21 GMT (UK) »
Have been on the GRO  webpage and there is just the one death for John Fleming 1921 so, I am going order it - fingers crossed it will be the right one.

Also had a look for Joseph's birth 1884, none - but as I don't know where in England he was born I am not going to find him  :'(
Moffat- Mein - Titterington - Kidman

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline Kay99

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,923
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Thomas Gillespie FLEMING
« Reply #29 on: Monday 27 February 17 10:26 GMT (UK) »
I looked for Joseph as well yesterday and couldn't see either post 1891.   

I suppose it is possible that he was a son of John's but as he wasn't married at the time that child might have been registered under the mother's name.   John was living in Carlisle I think in 1891

Offline cupcake

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,090
  • My G Grandfather - Robert Johnstone Moffat
    • View Profile
Re: Thomas Gillespie FLEMING
« Reply #30 on: Monday 27 February 17 11:52 GMT (UK) »
I looked for Joseph as well yesterday and couldn't see either post 1891.   

I suppose it is possible that he was a son of John's but as he wasn't married at the time that child might have been registered under the mother's name.   John was living in Carlisle I think in 1891

Thank you for looking for me. I agree that Joseph could be John's son but, isn't going to be easy to find either of them. I wonder if I should post on the Carlisle forum to see if anyone can help.
Moffat- Mein - Titterington - Kidman

Offline cupcake

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,090
  • My G Grandfather - Robert Johnstone Moffat
    • View Profile
Re: Thomas Gillespie FLEMING
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 01 March 17 06:59 GMT (UK) »
I think this may be Mary in 1891  living in Govan??

Lillias Gillespie 32 b Lochmaben, Dumfriesshire
John Gillespie 10
James Gillespie    1
Mary Fleming 14 Niece  b Newton Stewart, Wigtownshire
Joseph Fleming    7  Nephew b  England



After finding Lillias's death in 1893 - Glasgow, two years after her sister Margaret died - I am curious to know where Mary FLEMING now 16yrs and Joseph FLEMING 9 yrs. would go.
Had a look at the 1901 census (shown in earlier post) for Jane/Janet COWAN (Lillias and Margaret's sister) to see if they were staying there. No

ADD   On Lillias's death certificate, Janet Cowan (sister) was the informant -174 Rose Street, South, Glasgow.
Moffat- Mein - Titterington - Kidman

Offline Kay99

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,923
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Thomas Gillespie FLEMING
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 01 March 17 07:41 GMT (UK) »
Both Joseph and Mary disappear post 1891 and as far as I can see they don't appear to be living with any aunts or uncles.  Mary might have married pre 1901 but no obvious ones.

Offline cupcake

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,090
  • My G Grandfather - Robert Johnstone Moffat
    • View Profile
Re: Thomas Gillespie FLEMING
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 01 March 17 08:20 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I have been searching for them. I too thought perhaps they were living with relatives.

Joseph was only 9 years old. Sad as it is,would he have gone into the poor house or a Boys Industrial School.
Moffat- Mein - Titterington - Kidman

Offline cupcake

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,090
  • My G Grandfather - Robert Johnstone Moffat
    • View Profile
Re: Thomas Gillespie FLEMING
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 02 March 17 10:31 GMT (UK) »
Looks as if I'll need to visit to the Mitchell Library in Glasgow.
Moffat- Mein - Titterington - Kidman

Offline cupcake

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,090
  • My G Grandfather - Robert Johnstone Moffat
    • View Profile
Re: Thomas Gillespie FLEMING
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 04 March 17 16:18 GMT (UK) »

Just back from the Mitchell Library in Glasgow and got some information 3 pages - and they are going to photo copy them and post them to me.

Joseph was in the poor house and latterly in an Industrial School 1895 - no more info after that. The girl said I should look at the Electoral Rolls on Scotlands People for him - not too sure about that, he would only be 11 years old.

cupcake
Moffat- Mein - Titterington - Kidman