Is he the father of modern Lincolnshire?

[Redroger]

My grandfather's eldest brother John Siesor Luffman (1818-1886)is shown as a "higgler" (self employed ploughman for hire) in the 1871 census. Unfortunately that does not seem to be the only service he hired out as a Y chromosome 37 marker DNA test has shown that there was at least one person in Lincolnshire in the right time frame (say 1840-1875 when he finally married) with whom I share 36/37 markers. Is there anyone else who can trace a previously undocumented line back to this period and area, Alford-Lincoln area with whom I could share the results of my test, just to try to establish whether this was a one off fling, or whether he was unofficial father of modern Lincolnshire? If so, please contact me by the Personal Message system. Thanks.

[a-l]

How intriguing Redroger , I hope you will keep us updated.

[Redroger]

I will indeed, but as you know you are the first respondent. Not many people have had Y chromosome DNA tests and the field is very limited. Hopefully there will be several replies soon, about people who were born illegitimately in the area between Lincoln and the East Coast (centred on Alford) and between 1835 and 1875 when he finally married.

[Mike in Cumbria]

A higgler was an itinerant trader, not a ploughman.

[Redroger]

A higgler was an itinerant trader, not a ploughman.

Please see above, the term used was "Higgler" which is used for a person hiring out agricultural ( and in this case other!) services.

[Mike in Cumbria]

A higgler was an itinerant trader, not a ploughman.

Please see above, the term used was "Higgler" which is used for a person hiring out agricultural ( and in this case other!) services.

I've never seen it used for anything other than a peddler.  Can you show a reference for your usage?

Thanks

Mike

Edit - yes, found a reference to it in South Lincolnshire - it seems to be a very local use of the word. Interesting.

Mike

[Redroger]

That is the Reference Mike, I believe it came from "History of Boston" by Pishey Thompson (1856)

[DavidG02]

Have arranged for an upgrade on my FF to a y67 test. Shall update when possible. If not check my gedmatch number. I have Brightons and Barkers around Long Sutton. But who knows

[Redroger]

Thanks, I notice the surname Lehmann amongst your interests.Apparently this is recorded as another version of Luffman. Not clear whether maternal or paternal. I wonder?