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John Tim
« on: Sunday 05 March 17 10:26 GMT (UK) »
Hello

Please can someone check a census for me page 23
Registration Number   RG09
Piece/Folio   1820 / 39

Got this of the LDS it says John Timm 1794 is an Inmate living on commercial road Hereford says he was married but it only brings him up could someone advise who his wife was and whether he was originally from Oxford.

Eileen


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Re: John Tim
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 05 March 17 10:31 GMT (UK) »
John Tims married 67 bn Ronson? Oxon
Mary Tims 71 bn Hereford  Pauper

They are in the workhouse
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Re: John Tim
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 05 March 17 13:25 GMT (UK) »
Hello Rosie

Thanks for that I am really struggling on this side of the history. My John was a stone mason so don't know whether this was him.  His son William also a stone mason moved to Hereford that's why I checked this one.  His parents however were John and Elizabeth

Will put with my other stuff and see if I can solve the mystery.  Back to the drawing board

Eileen
 

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Re: John Tim
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 05 March 17 15:20 GMT (UK) »
The 1861 does not have an occupation for John.  I have found this couple in Hereford in 1841
HO107/433 bk5 f2 p17 so you can probably eliminate them.
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Re: John Tim
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 05 March 17 16:41 GMT (UK) »
Hello Rosie

Thanks for that I am in a state of confusion on this line so ruling one out is good I now only have 3 lol. Can I please just run something by you for your expertise. ???

The LDS have a pedigree on for the Timms/Tymms and other spellings family.

I have found William Timms my great great great grandfather was born in Chipping Norton 12.07.1812 with parents John and Elizabeth. He was a policeman in London when his son was born and then he was a stone mason by the time his son married in Hereford. 

All his brothers and sisters except for Clam (male) 30.07.1826 and him are on this pedigree with parents John and Elizabeth Timms nee Watkin.

They seem to have mixed up 3 John Timms and I can't unscramble it.

John Timms they have got marrying Elizabeth Watkin was born 1784 Ascott Mason with sons Frederick and John.  On the 1841/1851 census HO107 891/5 page 2, HO107 1727/331 page 48 his wife was Caterine?

John Tymms also born Ascott a Mason 1776 he's a widower living with his daughter Amelia Chaundy a retired mason.  HO107 878/2 page 1, HO107 1732/229.  The John I found with daughter Amelia was a John Tymms and his wife was Frances Milton who he married 23.10.1800 at Ascott Under Wychwood.

John Timms 1782 as a wife Elizabeth also 1782 and they have children still at home of Clara, Mary and James which all fit with the Weslyan chapel family at Chipping Norton 1841 census HO107 879/11 page 11.  I think Elizabeth died 1845 aged 62 and I think John died 08.03.1851 in Taynton
So nothing to say he was or wasn't a mason and neither lived to get on the 1851 census.

I think Elizabeth Watkin was from Hereford? marriage 13.02.1809 @ Aymestrey St John & St Atkmund Herefordshire.

The pedigree is on John Timms 1784 so it's well and truly confused me.  I even emailed the LDS but they referred me too websites.

Hoping against hope that I am on the right branch. Thanks for all your past help

Eileen




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Re: John Tim
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 05 March 17 17:06 GMT (UK) »

John Timms they have got marrying Elizabeth Watkin was born 1784 Ascott Mason with sons Frederick and John.  On the 1841/1851 census HO107 891/5 page 2, HO107 1727/331 page 48 his wife was Caterine?


This would fit that couple
John Timms
Catharina Cook
MARRIAGE 28 Oct 1805 - Burford, Oxfordshire

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Re: John Tim
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 05 March 17 17:19 GMT (UK) »

John Timms 1782 as a wife Elizabeth also 1782 and they have children still at home of Clara, Mary and James which all fit with the Weslyan chapel family at Chipping Norton 1841 census HO107 879/11 page 11.  I think Elizabeth died 1845 aged 62 and I think John died 08.03.1851 in Taynton
So nothing to say he was or wasn't a mason and neither lived to get on the 1851 census.


1841 with those children in Taynton gives Johns occupation as Mason. The address was Hit or Miss -Locks/Lucks Hall  ;D 
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Re: John Tim
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 05 March 17 19:00 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that Rosie  I think he is mine so I can continue.  I think that I can sift through the pedigree and take out the relevant information now.  Thanks again for your help

Eileen