John William gray

[rainy]

Thank you Spades for checking for me.

I wonder if Department of Internal Affairs Notification of Death to Army records had the wrong death for him???

The rest of the form has his army number, birth etc.
Was it usual that they even notified re deaths.

As hadn't done that for other two brothers in the family, who have been able to find info for.

Its stamped 1968 as well.

Yes have searched bdm nz several times. Used the calculator to work out births etc from deaths.
And unfortunately there are several.

Appreciate your help.
rainy

[minniehaha]

See reply #3 re possible death.

Only sibling found:

1881/4795   Gray   George Stephen   Frances Mary   John


What was the name of the sister?


Minniehaha.

[rainy]

I also found him in 1925 on Electoral Roll at Arahura.
Think he is still there 1928, then I am not sure.

As several with that name.

Thank you for the School record Minniehaha .

These friends do not have computer and are interested Orally in their family history.

Many thanks.
rainy

Yes that's one brother and is named as his next of kin in Army record.
Other brother is Charles James Gray but found it under Grey. born 1883.

Frances Gray is their sister. Marries Patrick James Monahan 1900.
Patrick dies up Collingwood/Takaka way.
But think Frances maybe Buried in Nelson???1954.

Yes that other 1968 death that could be is the Oamaru one I found in their cemeteries.
But don't think friends will buy certificates???
which of course would possibly confirm if correct person etc.

Thank you all.
rainy

[Lucy2]

Hi rainy

The "John William GRAY" death registration showing on NZBDM (online), has a date of death of 8 July 1968.  He will be the man buried at Oamaru on 11 July 1868.

The cemetery record online at the Waitaki District Council website, notes "RSA plot".

Good idea to check with the District Council to see if you can ascertain the Regimental number for this man (surely they must have a note of it ... I'm surprised it isn't given in their listing  .)
[Your John William GRAY's number was > 56428 > ]

Here's the link to make an enquiry.

http://www.waitaki.govt.nz/our-services/do-it-online/cemetery-search/Pages/default.aspx

  ~  Lu

[minniehaha]

"But don't think friends will buy certificates???"


Purchasing printouts is the better option. They are cheaper than certificates, may contain more information and can be e-mailed.


Minniehaha.

[Lucy2]

Yes that other 1968 death that could be is the Oamaru one I found in their cemeteries.
But don't think friends will buy certificates???
which of course would possibly confirm if correct person etc.

 ... see my suggestion about contacting Waitaki District Council.   

[rainy]

Thank you Lu hadn't thought re Council would have his Army number.
Will do that in a few moments.

Minnyhaha yes agree copy of certificates is best.
But just the way they think don't think it will happen.

So we can only do what is possible for us to do.
Think it is just they don't understand what is required.

Thank you both for your wonderful advice and help.
rainy

[Beg Clonrode...]

Also in his Army records there is a death record 23.9.1968 Hamilton.

Hello...

Has the following been mentioned yet (can't see it)...

BDM NZ Deaths
1968/47304 - GRAY, John William - 52 - d.o.d 23 Sep 1968

Either BDM NZ have the age at death wrong or the army file has the wrong date of death or it may be a namesake who died on the same day...

Regards
Beg

[rainy]

Thank you Beg.

Yes it has made me wonder whether something not correct.

The 23 Sept 1968 at 52 years would be quite some years out, but did they know when he was born???

Its another maybe.

Have emailed the Council to see if they have Army number, since he is buried in Oamaur RSA plot.
So await reply.

Thank you for your help.
rainy