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Re: 1911 census - stumped Robert Bach born 1858 in Scotland
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 18:12 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Josey,

Turning the page now  ???

Bert,

To get a feel for his movements can you list in order where Robert was in;

1861/71/81/91 as we have 1901

Trying to work out the move from Edinburgh to Stirling & back to Edinburgh?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: 1911 census - stumped Robert Bach born 1858 in Scotland
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 17 May 18 15:36 BST (UK) »
Hello

I am researching this man too. In 1861 he was in Edinburgh with parents. Again in Edinburgh, 1871, 1881 and 1891 the latter with wife and children. In 1901 Stirling.
Occupation was house-painter.
He died in the Craiglockhart Poorhouse in Oct 1914 according to death certificate usual residence was Edinburgh. I also cannot find his grave. The Poorhouse records don't exist.

He must be in 1911 but where.... unless of course he is one who was missed!!

Anyone assist further with 1911 and place of burial in 1914.

Jas

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Re: 1911 census - stumped Robert Bach born 1858 in Scotland
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 17 May 18 16:26 BST (UK) »
Just a thought but Edinburgh isn't far from the borders, may be with a family member or some other reason in N of England?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: 1911 census - stumped Robert Bach born 1858 in Scotland
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 17 May 18 19:21 BST (UK) »
Good point Annie thanks. He was born in Edinburgh in 1858 but no sign of him in England

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Re: 1911 census - stumped Robert Bach born 1858 in Scotland
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 17 May 18 23:18 BST (UK) »
Ok, another thought...

Could he be with a family member, daughter or other (with different surname) & recorded under their surname in error unless all family are accounted for in 1911?

Clutching at straws now but odd things do happen  ???

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: 1911 census - stumped Robert Bach born 1858 in Scotland
« Reply #32 on: Friday 18 May 18 00:23 BST (UK) »
I have gone over this & there’s a few things which don’t tally for Robert Edmond

“Robert Bach born 1858 in Scotland died in 1914 in Edinburgh”
On death he was recorded as aged 65 (birth year 1849) which is 9 yrs out!

“Address at death Craiglockhart Poorhouse. Residence Edinburgh Grassmarket”
RD District was Colinton which helps researchers as the Lothians have quite a few

This may be a long shot on someone else filling in details but may be worth investigating as the surname may have been misheard as Back/Black rather than Bach & depending on accents ‘CH’ can often be pronounced ‘CK’

1911
BLACK ROBERT 49 (born c 1862) which is far closer than the age given at death
677/ 4/ 19 Colinton, Midlothian

Not sure if this has been discounted already?

My thinking is (hopefully) someone else filled in the details as Robert does seem to use his middle name quite often on other records?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: 1911 census - stumped Robert Bach born 1858 in Scotland
« Reply #33 on: Friday 18 May 18 02:00 BST (UK) »
BLACK ROBERT 49 (born c 1862) which is far closer than the age given at death
677/ 4/ 19 Colinton, Midlothian

Not sure if this has been discounted already?

Can discount him too as he's with his wife in Colinton 1901 & born Lanark  :(

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: 1911 census - stumped Robert Bach born 1858 in Scotland
« Reply #34 on: Friday 18 May 18 07:10 BST (UK) »
Annie

Thank you for your thoughts. I agree with your view of this. Chances are name is under something else maybe even Black as you say.
I suppose his occupation "house painter" could also be a valuable clue?

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Re: 1911 census - stumped Robert Bach born 1858 in Scotland
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 20 May 18 01:09 BST (UK) »
I suppose his occupation "house painter" could also be a valuable clue?

Unfortunately there's no way of finding out as the 1911 is only available on SP & can't be searched by occ.  ::)

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"