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Offline tresario

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Breen
« on: Tuesday 07 March 17 21:35 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for information on the Breen family. Elizabeth and Cathleen were born 1935 and 1937(now deceased) to Thomas Breen. There was also a son Thomas who died at some point.They attended school in cashel.
Around 1946 their dad moved them to Mullingar and he married a Margaret Egan.
I don't know the maiden name of his first wife the girl's mother. I don't know if they originally came from Tipperary. I only know for definite they attended a school there. Which one I don't know.
DNA has been competed,uploaded to gedmatch and also family tree DNA. No close matches though. Plenty of 4th n beyond, but no name matches.
Has anyone got a polished crystal ball that could offer any advice please.
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Re: Breen
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 March 17 09:02 GMT (UK) »
Bit of a breakthrough overnight, Thomas Breen first wife was cAlled Margaret and  their daughter Kathleen Mary might have been Mary Kathleen.Thomas died in 1964 in Mullingar.
No one knows if he was a Tipperary man, or Margaret. Just that the girls attended school in cashel. They are Catholic, so I would imagine that it would be a Catholic school they attended.
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Re: Breen
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 March 17 13:17 GMT (UK) »

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Re: Breen
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 March 17 13:37 GMT (UK) »
There are a few marriages to Margaret's in the time frame, on IrishGenealogy, you would than need to cross reference their surnames with births on Family Search
Knowing his job would help.

For example a possible, Thomas Breen to Margaret Keenan1935
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1935/08934/5231330.pdf
Possible Children
Elizabeth K in Balrothery 1935
Female 1936 Dublin
Catherine M 1938 Dublin
Thomas M 1940 Dublin


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Re: Breen
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 March 17 13:43 GMT (UK) »
There is a 1947 marriage in Mullingar of
Thomas BREEN and Margaret EGAN Q1 V3 P155

If the children were born as late as 1937 this implies his first wife died between 1937 and 1947
Irishgenalogy.ie gives 23 deaths in this time period of Margaret BREEN

Was Thomas a soldier? as this is the best match I can see LINK
even though it is in Balrothery (Dublin); married lady aged 28 in 1942

If you search for marriages for a Thomas BREEN from 1925 to 1935
There are only five with a spouse named Margaret

Thomas BREEN m Margaret KEENAN on Feb 07 1935 in Balrothery LINK
Thomas was a Battalion Policeman

This couple had children that match the names you are looking for LINK

apologies to Sinann for some overlap  ;)
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Breen
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 March 17 14:01 GMT (UK) »
Possible birth of Margaret KEENAN on August 17th 1913
to Michael KEENAN and Catherine BOYLAN LINK

Michael KEENAN m Catherine BOYLAN on Apr 21 1907 LINK

1911 census return for family living at 8 in Cloghran (Kinsaley, Dublin) - LINK
KEENAN family births 1907-1915 online LINK
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Breen
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 March 17 14:10 GMT (UK) »
We should also say, Catherine and Kathleen are interchangable.

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Re: Breen
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 March 17 19:16 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much and sincere apologies. Yes that is Thomas Breen in Patrick Street Mullingar that died at the hospital 5th July 1964 aged 60. Says farm labourer.

It was Mary the first wife they are saying now and Margaret Egan is the second wife. Im so sorry and you did a great search for them too. Thank you.

I thought that it could only be after 1937 when Cathleen was born, but im not sure if Thomas was the youngest of the 3 or where he fits in.

The girls went to school in Cashel. I am in Turkey and Family search wont let me access their records. I had a VPN, but Turkish gov have blocked them. Election soon!
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Re: Breen
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 March 17 23:51 GMT (UK) »
Yes, tomorrow I get to phone mullingar and speak to the elderly neighbour that remembers Tom Breen. And yes!! He was from Tipperary.



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