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Re: Dalton/Crowe Corrogemore Tipperary
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 22 July 17 13:42 BST (UK) »
There is a death in 1932 Cashel District for a Maurice DALTON aged 38 LINK

He was born on Feb 25 1896 LINK
to Maurice DALTON and Winfred HANLY

They had married on Feb 20 1895 LINK

The 1901 census shows Maurice with wife Emily and 5 children LINK
I believe that Winfred and Emma/Emily/Amy maybe the same person
Amy DALTON died Sept 19 1905 LINK#224

The 1911 census shows Maurice with wife Joanna and 9 children LINK
They married on Jan 16 1908 LINK

Children are (from www.irishgenealogy.ie)
(with mother maiden name HANLY)
Maurice Feb 25 1895
Margaret Jan 01 1896
Mary Mar 24 1898
Julia Apr 20 1901
Edmond Jun 13 1900
Bridget Jun 12 1901
John Feb 22 1903
William Apr 26 1905
(with mother maiden name Joanna O'BRIEN)
James May 14 1908 (presumably child that died)
Josephine/Joanna May 12 1909
Mary May 25 1910

Not sure how a CROWE family would be connected could be
Maurice DALTON Snr's sister married a CROWE for a full first cousin
Winifred/Emma HANLY's sister married a CROWE for a full first cousin
or they could be more distantly related and referred to as cousins
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Dalton/Crowe Corrogemore Tipperary
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 22 July 17 16:31 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your post. It contains information that I was not aware of, and will now be able to check further! Northwest 26

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Re: Dalton/Crowe Corrogemore Tipperary
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 26 July 17 00:03 BST (UK) »
County Tipperary and County Clare are the epicenter of the Dal Cais tribe which includes the King Brian Boru (we actually have Sir Conor O'Brien who the official titleholder of the O'Brien surname whose ancestry has proven their ancestry every generation for around 40 generations). The haplogroup R-L226 is the second largest Irish based haplogroup which contains a large percentage of the Dal Cais tribe.

Crow/Crowe is a major part of the L226 haplogroup where ten Crow testers have tested to 67 markers. The Crow testers are all closely related under the L226 branch, DC135. If you are DC135 and 449 (28>27), nine of ten of the Crow testers belong to this branch. The tenth Crow tester is just above 449 (28>27) and is probably related as well.

If you have Crow ancestor from Tipperary or Clare, I encourage you to test 67 markers at FTDNA and see if you belong to this large Crow cluster. If you test and do belong to this cluster, you should then share traditional genealogy to determine the exact relationship. Here is a chart that shows how the nine Crow testers that are 449 (28>27) are genetically related to each other and the rest of the Dal Cais clan:

http://www.rcasey.net/DNA/R_L226/Haplotrees/L226_Home.pdf#Page=39

Casey - Tipperary or Clare, Ireland
Kelly - Ireland
Brooks, Bryan, Shelton (2), Harper, Williamson - England
Tucker, Arrington, Stevenson, Shears, Jarvis - England
Hill (2), Reed, Olliff, Jackson, Potter, Cruse, Charlton - England
Davis. Martin, Ellison, Woodward, Alderson - England
Pace - Shropshire, England
Revier - Netherlands
Messer - Germany
Wininger - Switzerland

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Re: Dalton/Crowe Corrogemore Tipperary
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 04 November 17 06:18 GMT (UK) »
Hello PatDEN,

I am distantly related to Patrick Dalton's wife Hanora Cummins. She was the daughter of Richard Cummins and Mary Burke. Mary Burke was the sister to my 2nd Great-Grandfather Patrick Burke. If you are a descendant of Mary Burke and Richard Cummins then we would be distant cousins. It would be great to hear from you

Take care,

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Re: Dalton/Crowe Corrogemore Tipperary
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 21:13 GMT (UK) »
Hello, I am trying to find the meaning of the initials after surname. My great grandfather was Maurice Dalton. He was killed in an accident, in Tipperary, in 1869 on the way back from a meeting regarding Fenian prisoners. In his death notice he is listed as Mr Dalton, P.L.G., Ballyhurst.  I cannot find what the letters PLG mean.

I am also trying to find a marriage registration for his son, Maurice, and Amy/Emily Hanly (my grandmother). Maurice was first married to Winifred Hanly who died in 1896. The next year he married Amy/Emily Hanly. I can find no record of Amy's birth or their marriage. She used several first names on the birth registrations of her children, so not sure what her real first name was. I do have her death notice in 1905. 

Any help is much appreciated. Thank you! Northwest 26

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Re: Dalton/Crowe Corrogemore Tipperary
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 28 December 17 00:07 GMT (UK) »
Poor Law Guardian see a previous post on this site http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=491272.0

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Re: Dalton/Crowe Corrogemore Tipperary
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 28 December 17 00:30 GMT (UK) »
Maurice Dalton of Ballyhurst must have married again for the third time to Johanna O Brien on 16th Jan 1908 a daughter of Michael a cattle dealer

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Re: Dalton/Crowe Corrogemore Tipperary
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 28 December 17 06:09 GMT (UK) »
I am also trying to find a marriage registration for his son, Maurice, and Amy/Emily Hanly (my grandmother). Maurice was first married to Winifred Hanly who died in 1896. The next year he married Amy/Emily Hanly. I can find no record of Amy's birth or their marriage. She used several first names on the birth registrations of her children, so not sure what her real first name was. I do have her death notice in 1905. 

Any help is much appreciated. Thank you! Northwest 26

What evidence have you got that Winifred died?
could it not simply be that Winifred used the name Emily/Emma/Amy.

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Re: Dalton/Crowe Corrogemore Tipperary
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 28 December 17 14:21 GMT (UK) »
I would agree with Sinann re Emily/Amy being Winnifred

there are this couple Edmond Hanly and Bridget Maher/Meagher
cant see an obvious marriage before 1869
children
William 1869
Margaret 1870
Johanna 1872
Elizabeth 1873 who possibly married John O'Keeffe in 1903
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1903/10227/5722609.pdf
not obvious to me on census
Timothy 1877
Cornelius 1879