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Re: John Burns Death 1976
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 12 March 17 04:56 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your reply, Beg.
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John Burns - 1976/37494

Was his Mother Mabel? Yes.

Hello...

I suspect his mother was Elizabeth...

Elizabeth King BURNS - Taruheru cemetery
http://tinyurl.com/jcovpn9

I looked up the 1976 death notice for the John BURNS - 1976/37494 that you mentioned. The notice said he had a brother James in Gisborne and a sister, the late Mary BURNETT, in Wellington.

I checked Gisborne and Wellington cemetery websites, plus the BURNETT to BURNS marriage record, and the names and ages fit the BURNS family on the following passenger list...

Auckland arrivals - 1926 - Mahana - Image 123 of 209
http://tinyurl.com/zg9fecr

Scotland's People website is the next place to visit if you want to trace this family further although, as there's no sign so far of a Mabel or Laurence/Lawrence or Colin, I'm with KHP and suspect it's a dead end.

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Beg

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Re: John Burns Death 1976
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 12 March 17 09:30 GMT (UK) »
Hello...

A possible birth date...

John "Jock" BURNS
7 May 1911


http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=wermore&id=I157646

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The following NZ death has the same date of birth ... but more than likely he's a namesake with the same birthdate as there's a Robert later in the family.

BDM NZ
1977/37415 - BURNS, Robert John - d.o.b 7 May 1911 - d.o.d 17 Jul 1977


http://tinyurl.com/hwgqyul

The burial record gives an NZ address. Maybe trace him back through NZ electoral rolls. Maybe find a wife. Maybe find a marriage. Maybe a few years after the marriage find births for Lawrence and Colin... maybe.

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Beg

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Re: John Burns Death 1976
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 12 March 17 18:54 GMT (UK) »
Hello...

A possible birth date...

John "Jock" BURNS
7 May 1911


http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=wermore&id=I157646

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The following NZ death has the same date of birth ... but more than likely he's a namesake with the same birthdate as there's a Robert later in the family.

BDM NZ
1977/37415 - BURNS, Robert John - d.o.b 7 May 1911 - d.o.d 17 Jul 1977


http://tinyurl.com/hwgqyul

Regards
Beg

Born in New Zealand :

1911/12215 - BURNS - Robert John
Parents:   Alice Annie and William John

Date of birth (deduced from online index listing) = 7 May 1911

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Re: John Burns Death 1976
« Reply #21 on: Monday 13 March 17 00:55 GMT (UK) »
Further to replies #14 & 15........

If the children in the 1944 death notice of James Burns are listed from eldest to youngest then son John (Jock) was probably born between 1914 & 1918.

Herewith some details about John's brother Colin, who according to the death notice was serving with the R.A.A.F.-

BURNS COLIN KEVIN : Service Number - 428117 : Date of birth - 20 May 1919 : Place of birth - FORTH TAS : Place of enlistment - HOBART : Next of Kin - BURNS MABEL

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Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.


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Re: John Burns Death 1976
« Reply #22 on: Monday 13 March 17 01:08 GMT (UK) »
Further to the above-

If John (Jock) died in New Zealand, here are three possible candidates:

1981/36501   Burns   John Andrew   15 February 1918

1985/34012   Burns   John Samuel   22 July 1915

2003/1621   Burns   John   30 November 1917



Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: John Burns Death 1976
« Reply #23 on: Monday 13 March 17 02:05 GMT (UK) »


1985/34012   Burns   John Samuel   22 July 1915

Minniehaha.

Above was NZ-born.

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Re: John Burns Death 1976
« Reply #24 on: Monday 13 March 17 02:45 GMT (UK) »

1981/36501   Burns   John Andrew   15 February 1918

Minniehaha.

Not the above "John Andrew" :
Cremation record at Dunedin - retired engineer.
According to a family tree online, said to be the son of George BURNS and Flora Alice McALPINE.
[All born in NZ. ]

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Re: John Burns Death 1976
« Reply #25 on: Monday 13 March 17 02:57 GMT (UK) »

2003/1621   Burns   John   30 November 1917

Minniehaha.

And not this ^ man either.

(Brigadier)  John "Blackie" BURNS - born 30 November 1917 at Napier, NZ - educated St Patrick's College, Wellington.   Died :  January 2003 :

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Re: John Burns Death 1976
« Reply #26 on: Monday 13 March 17 03:36 GMT (UK) »
This article concerning the wedding of Phylis Mary (Molly) Burns does not help with the finding of her brother John but maybe adds to the overall family picture?

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/91504747?searchTerm=burns%20brooks&searchLimits=exactPhrase|||anyWords|||notWords|||requestHandler|||dateFrom=1937-01-01|||dateTo=1944-12-31|||sortby


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.