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Identifying coat of arms
« on: Sunday 12 March 17 01:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi! , this is my first post and I didn't know were to post it!
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I wanted to know if somebody could help identifying a coat oh arms in a ring that belonged my grandfather .

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Re: Identifying coat of arms
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 March 17 06:01 GMT (UK) »
It seems to be a seal bearing the Prince of Wales feathers in a coronet.
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Re: Identifying coat of arms
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 March 17 09:14 GMT (UK) »
The horizontal hatching on the shield usually indicates blue, although some people used it for red.

The helmet above the shield indicates a Royal person (a gold helmet with bars).

The problem is that the arms of the Prince of Wales are the Royal Arms, with a white "label" across the top?

The Royal Badge of Wales is quarterly, gold and red, with a lion in each quarter.

It's possibly a ring from one of the many organisations that use the Prince-of-Wales feathers?
Maybe an Army Regiment?
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Re: Identifying coat of arms
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 12 March 17 15:23 GMT (UK) »
The style  is European, probably Germanic. That covers a vast amount of area, more than today's Germany.

The horizontal lines are from the "Petra Sancta" method of depicting colour in a black and white drawing and represent blue.

Because of the European style of the arms, I do not think that they have anything to do with the Prince of Wales, nor any other person of Royalty. Rather they are just 3 feathers issuing from a Count's coronet.

Above the helmet, which is probably steel, is the crest. A "panache" of 5 feathers issuing from a ducal coronet (nothing to do with Dukes, just the name of the coronet). This is a pan-European crest used as a space filler. Many, many families use the same crest there. (In Spain, crests are unknown, but artists use a panache as an artistic trick to fill up and balance a canvas.)

It is my opinion that this was a seal (for documents) and of European origin. There was a time, in Europe, when most business people and most tradesmen would use a seal, but did not have a coat of arms.

It is a handsome piece of jewellery and there is no reason (legally nor morally) why you should not continue to use it as a seal in your family.

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