Marine Fireman

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Without confusing you all - Joseph had a cousin, Joseph Fleming b. 12 April 1874- Calton, Glasgow. Haven't found his death as yet, or what his occupation was.




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Without confusing you all - Joseph had a cousin, Joseph Fleming b. 12 April 1874- Calton, Glasgow. Haven't found his death as yet, or what his occupation was.

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After a while searching I have found the above, Joseph Fleming b. 1874 - death. He died 1899 in Glasgow aged 25 years. He was an Engineers Labourer.

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Have been searching for Joseph FLEMING's death. He was born 1884 and from his marriage certificate 1909 Glasgow, he was a Marine Fireman.

He is listed on the ship Lake Erie 1911/1912 Glasgow to London.  Glasgow Electoral Records show he is with Sarah (wife) until 1926 and again 1928-1931. Can't think where he would be between 1926 & 1928 and after 1931.

He wife died 1967 Glasgow - but can't find a death for Joseph. . Have been searching for Joseph FLEMING's death. He was born 2 April 1884 Cumbria, England. His parents were William FLEMING & Margaret Fleming (Gillespie) and from his marriage certificate 1909 Glasgow, he was a Marine Fireman. His wife was Sarah Loughran.

He is listed on the ship Lake Erie 1911/1912 Glasgow to London. 

UPDATE:
Received  Sarah's death Certificate yesterday and says she was a widow and Joseph was a Merchant Seaman.


Any information would be very much appreciated.

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Have been searching for Joseph FLEMING's death. He was born 1884 and from his marriage certificate 1909 Glasgow, he was a Marine Fireman.

He is listed on the ship Lake Erie 1911/1912 Glasgow to London.  Glasgow Electoral Records show he is with Sarah (wife) until 1926 and again 1928-1931. Can't think where he would be between 1926 & 1928 and after 1931.

He wife died 1967 Glasgow - but can't find a death for Joseph in Scotland.

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UPDATE:
Received  Sarah's death Certificate yesterday and says she was a widow and Joseph was a Merchant Seaman.

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With a friends help I am sure I have found Joseph FLEMING'S death. The only query is , is his birthplace is listed as Dumfries - he was born in Cockermouth, Cumbria. His age is a year out as he was born in 1884.

Doesn't give too much detail as to place - date  or port of registry.

Can anyone give me any other information, please.

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Yes, Scotlands People

Joseph FLEMING - 42 - 1927 - 041/MR 304 - MARINE RETURN

Sandra

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There is a Board of Trade Wreck report re the loss of the vessel LADY COMBE. O/N 142877
http://www.plimsoll.org/resources/SCCLibraries/WreckReports/14036.asp
Seems she was a Bucket Dredger en route to Lagos Nigeria.
Little bit of mystery surrounding her loss and after. She was still on the Mercantile Navy List in 1937 and her logbook and crew agreements has one for 1928 and one for 1938. Although I think the later could  be a catalogue mistake.
There may be some personal detail in the 1928 Logbook and crew agreement.
You can get a copy here.
https://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/viewcombinedcrews.php?Official_No=142877

In my opinion, this man is not your Joseph Fleming. I found the info you have on the 13th of March but dismissed it when you replyed that he was born in Cockermouth. Merchant seamen regularly lied about there age. But there place of birth?
I may be wrong in this assumption, very often am and as this is the only lead you have you need to follow it up to eliminate or confirm.

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There is a Board of Trade Wreck report re the loss of the vessel LADY COMBE. O/N 142877
http://www.plimsoll.org/resources/SCCLibraries/WreckReports/14036.asp
Seems she was a Bucket Dredger en route to Lagos Nigeria.
Little bit of mystery surrounding her loss and after. She was still on the Mercantile Navy List in 1937 and her logbook and crew agreements has one for 1928 and one for 1938. Although I think the later could  be a catalogue mistake.
There may be some personal detail in the 1928 Logbook and crew agreement.
You can get a copy here.
https://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/viewcombinedcrews.php?Official_No=142877

In my opinion, this man is not your Joseph Fleming. I found the info you have on the 13th of March but dismissed it when you replyed that he was born in Cockermouth. Merchant seamen regularly lied about there age. But there place of birth?
I may be wrong in this assumption, very often am and as this is the only lead you have you need to follow it up to eliminate or confirm.

Thank you for the addresses you have given me and I will look at them. Yes, there seems to be a mystery surrounding her loss and after.
I shall check to see if there is some personal detail in the 1928 Logbook and crew agreement.

You say this man isn't my Joseph - I thought this too, because of his place of birth, I have his birth certificate to confirm his place of birth. That said, he was at that address when he married in 1909. Yes, I will need to follow up (if I get the relevent information).

Thank you once again.

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