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Re: Thomas Mark Moody
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 22 March 17 09:09 GMT (UK) »
There still seem a lot of leaps of faith here. Thomas forgot his father's name (or maybe William was William John Moody), and then the birth at sea wasn't registered (which would explain the lack of any credible candidates so far for Thomas's birth record), when I am wondering why he would be born at sea anyway. Do I need to look for a family migration somewhere, but then there is a brother Samuel who is born after him in 1857 in Goole anyway? Some parts of the story fit, but others don't. And for a man born in a ship, his actual shipping record to NZ seems to be missing too, and it seems easy enough to find most of those records around that time (he is the only one in my family I haven't found relatively quickly). 

I remain confused, although also feeling that this fit with William Moody and Sarah Markham looks closer to credible than anything so far.
Smith: East Lothian, Scotland
Mack: Berwick, Scotland
Moody: Yorkshire, England
Smeeton: Leicester, England
Sullivan: Kerry, Ireland

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Re: Thomas Mark Moody
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 20 April 17 04:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Zumaro,

I finally found time to visit Archives NZ and look through the Intention to Marry Register for 1876.

I couldn't find the notice registered at Napier, so I might try the 1875 Register just in case.

Where did the parties live prior to marriage and afterwards? I might have to look there as well.

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Thomas Mark Moody
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 20 April 17 04:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Spades
Very much appreciated thanks.

My bet is that it will be Napier late 1875, as the marriage was 1 Jan 1876, and Mary Ann Tomlyn landed in Napier on 20 September 1875. She doesn't seem to have time to have moved around before marrying Thomas Moody. I've never really considered this before - that is a very small time lapse, and the wedding isn't shotgun, as the first child is 2 years later. Maybe just desire to have support and companionship, being a young single woman in a foreign land.

Where Thomas Moody landed in New Zealand is, as usual with any fact about this man, anyone's guess... So far we have a whole set of 'alternative facts' to describe his life I think.
Smith: East Lothian, Scotland
Mack: Berwick, Scotland
Moody: Yorkshire, England
Smeeton: Leicester, England
Sullivan: Kerry, Ireland

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Re: Thomas Mark Moody
« Reply #39 on: Friday 19 May 17 02:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Zumaro,

I have finally got my hands on the Intention to Marry Notice.

Can you please send me a PM with your email address.

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Thomas Mark Moody
« Reply #40 on: Friday 19 May 17 05:14 BST (UK) »

Edit.......... I've never really considered this before - that is a very small time lapse, and the wedding isn't shotgun, as the first child is 2 years later. ............

Don't rule out a miscarriage or stillbirth. Why register a still birth when the death registration immediately following the birth registration bears a cost? Plus funeral expenses.

Was not until the 1920' before a requirement to register a still birth after five months term came into force in some countries. I know of a NZ one where if the attending Doctor had done his sums right the still birth should have been registered, and been buried or cremated instead the miscarriage was just treated as medical waste. Huge cost saving on the young couple, but getting closure proved to be a long drawn out issue over many years.

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Re: Thomas Mark Moody
« Reply #41 on: Friday 19 May 17 19:07 BST (UK) »
Images sent.

Spades
ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL