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John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
« on: Monday 13 March 17 19:17 GMT (UK) »


Trying to prove John went to Canada with his brother c 1851 . John Binning Alexander was born 14Th February 1830 to Alexander Wallace and Isobel Binning in Falkirk Stirlingshire.
I have been unable to find John on census after 1841 in Scotland there is no death for him either.
There is a death of John Binnie Wallace in West Lothian in 1911 but this isn't him.
Grateful for any help and advice.

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Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 March 17 21:23 GMT (UK) »
Just to make you aware - There are a few family trees (10) which give John Binning Wallace - one with the birth date you give and the others 10 March 1830 - all 3 trees give passed away 1 February 1911 - Woodstock, Oxford, Ontario but that death cert gives parents as Thomas Wallace and Bella Wallace  ???

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Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 09:41 GMT (UK) »
Good Morning Sandra,

    The date I have given 14 Feb. 1830 is the christening date of John as found on SP -- .His mother Isobel  Binning died pre 1840 as his father is remarried on the 1841 census.

I thought as perhaps his brother went to Australia John did to.
There is no death or marriage in Scotland for him I was at NRH last week and could find nothing on him. The death I was given for him in 1911 in Uphall West Lothian proved to be someone else.
A John Binnie Wallace .
Could it be that whoever registered the death in Woodstock Ontario Canada had the wrong father and Bella /Belle is a shortened version of Isobel .

Your help and expert advice would be very much appreciated .

Thanks

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Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 19:07 GMT (UK) »
Is this your John Binning Alexander, or his brother?   :-\
Ontario, Canada Marriage
Alexander Wallace, age 74, born Scotland.  Farmer.  Parents:  Alexander Wallace and Isabel "Birnie"
Married Elizabeth Foreman, age 64, born Scotland.  Parents: Thomas Bradnort? & Janet Wilson.
Both "widower"
Both lived in E(ast) Zorra
Witnesses: ? MacKay and Amerlia J? MacKay, of Woodstock.
Date and place of marriage:  June 7, 1905, Woodstock
Religion:  Pres
By whom married:  W. A. MacKay
License or banns: June 19, 1905
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)


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Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 19:13 GMT (UK) »
That's right Lisa - Alexander was the brother of John Binning Wallace - we mentioned Alexander Wallace and Elizabeth Foreman on a previous thread - will link for you.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=765004.0

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Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 19:28 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, Sandra.   ;)
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 19:29 GMT (UK) »
No probs Lisa - he is certainly illusive.  ???


Good Morning Sandra,

Could it be that whoever registered the death in Woodstock Ontario Canada had the wrong father and Bella /Belle is a shortened version of Isobel .

Your help and expert advice would be very much appreciated .

Thanks

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It is not uncommon that the informant didn't have the proper information on parents - can't find anything else at the moment which leads everyone to claim that John "Binnie" Wallace (and his wife Mary Wilson) did pass away in Woodstock Ontario. No one has any sources on the couple, other than a 1901 Canadian Census. It looks like people have copied one ancestry tree to another......... ::)

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Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 19:34 GMT (UK) »
I don't have time right now to read through the thread.   :(

Perhaps suzilad or someone else familiar with all of the details could let us (me) know if William Wallace (living in Muir), who certified the death in 1911, was his son?  If so, perhaps a lead could be obtained by researching John's children?  (I hope that makes sense.)

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Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 20:09 GMT (UK) »
This was the 1901 census Oxford Ontario showing William Wallace (as on death certificate) with his father John Wallace -

W'm Wallace   39 Born 15 June 1861. Ontario.
Alice L Wallace   31
Ethel M Wallace   4
John A Wallace   1
John Wallace   71 Born 10 March 1830 Scotland.

The marriage of William and Alice in 1894 just showed parents John and Mary wallace.

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