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White family late 1700's and early 1800's
« on: Monday 13 March 17 21:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

Looking for advice on how to find records for White (alt. Whyte) family from Monaghan, as I've hit a brick wall in my tree. Also interested on whether anyone is researching this line as well.

My 3x great grandparents (James Stewart and Margaret White) were married in Scotland but their marriage certificate indicates they were born in Ireland. I've had absolutely no luck finding records for them. The details are as follows:

- James Stewart and Margaret White (alternate Whyte) married in Dundee Angus Scotland in 1855

 -Margaret White (b. abt. 1834), in Monaghan to Mason White & Elizabeth Mc/Mac____ (last name varies across several of children's marriage records; see attached images. Could be MacPal, McCarell, McKreb, etc.)

-White family was in Scotland for the 1851 census in Dundee, as Mason (60) & Elizabeth (62) with children: Jean (21), Masom (19), Margaret (17) & Thomas (15).

-Mason (Sr) death record in Dundee Scotland in 1855, age 68, lists children as: Joan, Mary, William, Elizabeth, Mason, Jean, Thomas and Margaret. Wife is Betty Mc___(illegible). Father's name looks like Richard. Birth is listed as in Monaghan.

Does anyone have any idea how I might look for birth records for Margaret White (and her siblings) and/or marriage of Mason White/Elizabeth ____??
Stewart in Kirkden, Paisley, Port Glasgow Scotland; Londonderry, Ireland; South Africa
Neilson in Paisley, Port Glasgow Scotland
Baillie in Peebles, Paisley, Edinburgh Scotland
Anderson in Angus/Forfarshire & Kincardineshire Scotland
Forbes in Kirkden Forfarshire & Kincardineshire, Scotland
Patterson/Paterson in Carmyllie & Kirkden, Forfarshire Scotland
Calhoun in Tyrone, Ireland & Jersey City, New Jersey
Mitchard in Liverpool England & New Jersey

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Re: White family late 1700's and early 1800's
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 March 17 21:49 GMT (UK) »
Marriage of James Stewart to Margaret White 1855 (bottom); marriage of Thomas White 1862 (top)
Stewart in Kirkden, Paisley, Port Glasgow Scotland; Londonderry, Ireland; South Africa
Neilson in Paisley, Port Glasgow Scotland
Baillie in Peebles, Paisley, Edinburgh Scotland
Anderson in Angus/Forfarshire & Kincardineshire Scotland
Forbes in Kirkden Forfarshire & Kincardineshire, Scotland
Patterson/Paterson in Carmyllie & Kirkden, Forfarshire Scotland
Calhoun in Tyrone, Ireland & Jersey City, New Jersey
Mitchard in Liverpool England & New Jersey

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Re: White family late 1700's and early 1800's
« Reply #2 on: Monday 13 March 17 21:52 GMT (UK) »
 Mason White Sr. death in 1855 (top)  and Marriage of Mason White Jr. in 1855 (bottom)
Stewart in Kirkden, Paisley, Port Glasgow Scotland; Londonderry, Ireland; South Africa
Neilson in Paisley, Port Glasgow Scotland
Baillie in Peebles, Paisley, Edinburgh Scotland
Anderson in Angus/Forfarshire & Kincardineshire Scotland
Forbes in Kirkden Forfarshire & Kincardineshire, Scotland
Patterson/Paterson in Carmyllie & Kirkden, Forfarshire Scotland
Calhoun in Tyrone, Ireland & Jersey City, New Jersey
Mitchard in Liverpool England & New Jersey

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Re: White family late 1700's and early 1800's
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 23:59 GMT (UK) »
Firstly, here is some info on Aughnamullen (sometimes Aghnamullen) Parish from the timescale of your ancestors:

http://aharney.us/monaghan/augh-1844.htm
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Re: White family late 1700's and early 1800's
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 March 17 00:02 GMT (UK) »
Now, looking at Tithe Applotment records for the Parish, there were 4 entries for White in 1829:

Jas (which will be a James) in Corteeber townland

Mason in Ullina townland

Jno (which will be a John) also in Ullina townland

Jas in Cordevlis townland


note Ullina is at times found as Ullinagh
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Re: White family late 1700's and early 1800's
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 15 March 17 00:03 GMT (UK) »
Here is a map of the various townlands in the Parish:

http://www.aharney.us/monaghan/aughna.htm
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Re: White family late 1700's and early 1800's
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 15 March 17 00:08 GMT (UK) »
Mason and John are on a farm of over 14 acres. You can view the record at:

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/index.jsp
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Re: White family late 1700's and early 1800's
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 15 March 17 00:18 GMT (UK) »
Did Margaret's brother, Mason, end up in America:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6YX-D4J
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Re: White family late 1700's and early 1800's
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 15 March 17 00:40 GMT (UK) »
If you google 'How to trace your ancestors in County Monaghan' by Monaghan Tourism, you can download a helpful guide that, amongst other useful pointers, includes dates from which various denominations records exist.

Do you know which denomination the Whites were?
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