Arthur Rose

[mrussell]

I am interested to hear from anyone who may be researching the Rose Family.  Arthur Rose was my great-grandfather.   I believe he was a Sugar Refiner.   His wife was Louisa Clifford Rose (nee Barwick).  Their son (my grandfather) Mark Samuel Rose was born in London on 19 December 1874.  The address given on his birth certificate was 13 Somerford Street, Bethnal Green.  Mark Samuel Rose emigrated to Australia with his wife Mary Lily Ann Rose (nee Williams) and my father William Edward Rose b. London on 1901.   The family disembarked at Townsville, Queensland, Australia on 15 July 1903.
With thanks
Marian

[KGarrad]

1891 census:
Class: RG12; Piece: 266; Folio: 213; Page: 40
71 Summersford Street, Bethnal Green, London

Rose, Arthur  Head  M  46  Labourer  b Cambridge
Rose, Louisa  Wife  F  48 Taloress  b Bethnal Green
Rose, Clara  Daughter  F  18  Tailoress  b Bethnal Green
Rose, Mark  Son  M  16  Bon Maker<?> (Wood)  b Bethnal Green
Rose, Mary  Daughter  F  13  b Bethnal Green
Rose, Elizabeth  Daughter  F  10  b Bethnal Green
Rose, Emma  Daughter  F  8  b Bethnal Green
Rose, William  Son  M  3  b Bethnal Green
Sturn, Emily A  Lodger  F  26  Living on Own Means  b Whitechapel
Sturn, Emily A  Lodger  F  6months  b Bethnal Green


1881 Census
Class: RG11; Piece: 419; Folio: 131; Page: 55
13 Summerford Street, Bethnal Green, London

Rose, Arthur  Head  M  33  Corn Grader  b Cambridge, Cambridgeshire
Rose, Louisa  Wife  F  32  Tailoress  b Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Rose, Clara  Daughter  F  9  Scholar  b Bethnal Green
Rose, Mark  Son  M  6  Scholar  b Bethnal Green
Rose, Elizabeth  Daughter  F  8 months  b Bethnal Green

[KGarrad]

1871 Census:
Class: RG10; Piece: 516; Folio: 5; Page: 3
38 Wellington Street, Whitechapel, Middlesex

Rose, Mark  Head  M  48  Labourer at Docks  b West Shelford, Cambridgeshire
Rose, Elizabeth  Wife  F  45  b West Shelford
Rose, Arthur  Son  M  22  Labourer at Docks  b West Shelford

1861 Census:
Class: RG 9; Piece: 258; Folio: 103; Page: 24
9 Wellington Street, Bethnal Green, Middlesex

Rose, Mark  Head  M  38  Labourer at Gas Factory  b Cambridgeshire
Rose, Elizabeth  Wife  F  36  b Cambridgeshire
Rose, William  Son  M  16  b Cambridgeshire
Rose, Arthur  Son  M  12  b Cambridgeshire

1851 Census:
Class: HO107; Piece: 1759; Folio: 655; Page: 27
Abigail's Lane, Great Shelford, Cambridgeshire

Rose, Mark  Head  M  28  Railway Labourer  b Shelford, Cambridgeshire
Rose, Elizabeth  Wife  F  25  b Shelford, Cambridgeshire
Rose, William  Son  M  7  b Shelford, Cambridgeshire
Rose, Arthur  Son  M  2  b Shelford, Cambridgeshire

[KGarrad]

Marriages (from FreeBMD):

September qtr 1843
Chesterton Registration District     vol 14, page 63

Rose, Mark
Kefford, Elizabeth


September qtr 1871
Bethnal Green Registration District     vol 1c, page 748

Rose, Arthur
Barwick, Louisa Clifford


September qtr 1897
St Olave Registration District     vol 1d, page 420

Rose, Mark Samuel
Williams, Lily Mary A

[sugarbakers]

Marian, I can find no evidence of Arthur being a sugar refiner. His early occupations are listed above and the later censuses show him as a bricklayer's labourer and a labourer for the Borough Council.
Might I suggest that the family story may have been jumbled up ... his father-in-law is shown as a confectioner on the 1871 marriage cert.

[jennifer c]

1901 census 2 Aldbridge Street Walworth

Mark Samuel Rose 26 Wood case maker (packing) born Bethnal Green
Lily Mary Ann 24 Tin table printer (litho) born East End

Jennifer

[jennifer c]

Arthur's occ. given as a labourer on Marks marriage cert.

Jennifer

[T scott]

Amazing you must be closely related to me. I am also related to Frank Everall Russell and "Molly" Russell. Someone in my family history is called Daniel Rose. I have a picture of someone who may be Daniel Rose or Octavius Russell. Frank Everall Russell is my great Grandfather. I have a definite picture of him, and a definite picture of Molly. Members of the Russell family are somehow connected with the Rose family but I'm not exactly clear on the connection except I know it goes through someone called Daniel Rose. I have the pictures of Frank and Molly here at home. This unknown photo of either Daniel Rose or Octavius Russell is also somewhere at home but I don't know where.