Charles Small born c1857. Angus - Rescobie or Coupar Angus.

[CaroleW]

SP shows a marriage between Helen Ewan & Daniel McKenzie in 1882

[Liviani]

In the 1901 census with the Robert and Charles it is showing that Robert is older than Charles but on the 1891 census Charles is older than Robert.

Only explanation I can think is that the census taker got the ages mixed up or the boys were messing around? 

[CaroleW]

It makes sense that Robert is older than Charles in 1891 as Robert was born after Daniel & Elllen (Helen) married.  Robert was probably born 1883 given that Charles was born 1882 and the marriage was 1882.

They appear to have reversed their ages in 1901 unless the enumerator got muddled?

Can you find either of them in 1911

[Liviani]

There is a 28 year old Charles McKenzie in the 1911 Census in Airlie Parish. There is also a Charles McKenzie in Forfar but I have the feeling that this will be other one that is no relation.

As for Robert there is only a 29 year old Robert McKenzie in the 1911 census in Angus but he is in Monifieth parish.

[Liviani]

On the 1911 record for Charles McKenzie in Airlie. It says the following;

Charles McKenzie Head 28 Ploughman born Forfar
Thomas Allardice  23 Ploughman born Kirriemuir
William George 26 Ploughman born Kirriemuir
James McAndrew 35 Shepherd Kirriemuir
William Ramsay 22 Ploughman Inverarity

Can't quite make out the name of the residence though, it looks something like 'Polomyre', but doesn't seem right and nothing on google regarding this in Airlie.

[Forfarian]

I've not come across the middle name on any documents before, was it usual to leave it out back then?

Yes. It was even commoner for people whose birth registration does not have a middle name to 'acquire' a middle name later in life.

Just realised Helen could be the same name as Ellen?

Yes, very common.

Could still be his mother and she met and married Daniel later?

Yes.

I'm wondering if his son was told incorrect information or if he did lie to the registrar about his father's 'death'.

Definitely possible.

As far as I was aware all of my family are Church of Scotland and have found no ancestors whom were Catholic other than this Charles George McKenzie. Perhaps this is the reason Charles Snr and Mary Stewart never married?

You need to see if you can eliminate Charles George as a possible father.
Charles George McKenzie was born in Forfar in 1883
Charles George McKenzie, aged 71, died in Forfar in 1955. Is he the same Charles George?
Did he marry? If so, whom and when? What was his occupation? Can you find him in the same census as Charles Small who may also be Charles McKenzie?

[Liviani]

Forfarian

Thank you for the responses.

I believe Charles George McKenzie is unrelated as he was living in Forfar with his mother Betsy in the 1901 census. There is a Charles McKenzie in the 1901 census in Wardmill Bothy, Rescobie which matches to the 'West Mains of Turin' Rescobie location mentioned on my grandfather Charles Jr's birth certificate.

Rescobie Charles in 1901 was a Farm Servant - Ploughman which matches the occupation on Charles jr's birth cert.

[Forfarian]

Forfarian

Thank you for the responses.

I believe Charles George McKenzie is unrelated as he was living in Forfar with his mother Betsy in the 1901 census. There is a Charles McKenzie in the 1901 census in Wardmill Bothy, Rescobie which matches to the 'West Mains of Turin' Rescobie location mentioned on my grandfather Charles Jr's birth certificate.

Rescobie Charles in 1901 was a Farm Servant - Ploughman which matches the occupation on Charles jr's birth cert.

Good. That looks better.

[Liviani]

I MAY have something to go on.

I was looking at transcripts of war memorials in Angus and looked at the list posted online regarding the names on Forfar's. There is a Charles McKenzie listed there.

MCKENZIE,   CHARLES.   Private.   Canadians.   France.   Wounded. Died January, 1917.

We know this isn't the Charles George McKenzie since he died in the 1950s. So this could potentially be my great grandfather and why he was down as deceased on the 1927 marriage cert of his son.

I will investigate further.