"Ring of Bells" Tavern

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Can anyone assist with 1841 Census for William Minear please?Might he have been living at the tavern?

William Menear, aged 87 "for many years landlord of the Ring of Bells died last Wednesday"
(Royal Cornwall Gazette, Fri 11 Jul 1845)

With thanks

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"Ringing Bells"

1841 Census - ref HO107  146  18  26

The correct census reference is HO107  146  18  28

The household at the "Ringing Bells" includes a 79 year old William Minner

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Burials (Cornwall OPC)

Elizabeth Minear, age - 64, buried - 29 Nov 1828, place - St Austell, residence - Town, notes - burnt? to death

This fits with a report in the Western Times, 13 Dec 1828, of the death of Elizabeth Minear "...who sometime since kept the Ring of Bells public house, at St. Austell ... so severely burned she survived the accident but two days".

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Burials (Cornwall OPC)

Anna Guy Minear, age - 20w**, date - 8 Dec 1829, place - Austell St.; residence - Town, notes - fits

The report in the Royal Cornwall Gazette, 12 Dec 1829, of the death of the infant daughter of Wm Minear, of the Ringing Bells, St Austle (sic), puts the age at 1yr 8 months

** - should read 20m? 

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Thank you hanus teulu.
That is exactly what I needed.
I am chasing up Mary Hancock Minear bpt 6 Apr 1834 who married my William Henry Harry 6 Apr 1853 St Austell.
The bpt. record shows that Mary was a base child of Jane ( I assume Minear ) with an occupation of victualler.

Rex Harry

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This looks like William (deceased March 1832) Minear's family in 1841 -
Census reference HO107  146  35  17

The Royal Cornwall Gazette 15 Oct 1831 "At St Austell, on Thursday, the wife of Mr Wm Minear, Innkeeper, of a son"

Baptisms (Cornwall OPC)
4 March 1832, Austell St., Edward Minear, parents William and Jane, residence - Town, profession - hatter, born 13 Oct 1831

No sign of a Mary Hancock Minear in the family.

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Thank you hanus teulu.
That is exactly what I needed.
I am chasing up Mary Hancock Minear bpt 6 Apr 1834 who married my William Henry Harry 6 Apr 1853 St Austell.
The bpt. record shows that Mary was a base child of Jane ( I assume Minear ) with an occupation of victualler.

Rex Harry

You are chasing a Mary Hancock Minear who married a William Henry Harry. A Mary Minear was baptised 1834 - nothing to link (as yet) the marriage with the baptism?

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Thanks again.
Can you oblige me with content of HO107 146 35 17 as not able access.
I am also having difficulty in finding Mary Hancock Minear who married my William Henry Harry.


Marriages Jun 1853   
Harry  William Henry    St Austell  5c 241   
Minear  Mary Hancock     S Austell  5c 241   

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I wonder if this is a possible scenario:

1851 Census
Union Road, Charlestown HO107/1907 folio 113 pg 4
William Davey head mar 51 miner b. Sheviock
Jane wife 47
William son 13 miner
Mary M Hancock servant 17
John Hore 46 miner
Henry Alsop 40 shoemaker b. Devon, Calstock
all born St Austell except where noted
 
 
The Daveys are still in Union Road in 1861, William, Jenefer, William H, and are next door to William & Mary Harry. RG9/1547 folio 126 pg 29..
 
William Henry Harry married Mary Hancock Minear 6 April 1853 St Austell. Looks like them next door.
 
I am concluding that Mary , base daughter of Jane Guy) Minear bpt 6 Apr 1834 was Mary M Hancock , a servant living with William Davey and Jane ( Hore) at Trleavens Crooss Lane in 1841 and Union Rd Charlestown with same family in 1851.
The very same person identified as Mary Hancock Minear married my William Henry Harry 18 June 1853.
In 1861 she is Mary H Harry aged 26 living at Union Rd St Austell.

Your thoughts appreciated.