Harris family, Merthyr Tydfil 1851

[osprey]

think he gives Carmarthen(shire) more times than Merthyr Tydfil.

 

[MarMnkly]

Building up the picture.. think this is the marriage of another possible sibling of David Harries (1819) shoemaker
On the 1841 census found by osprey, Margret Harries is aged 13
Vaynor parish church has  marriage on 5th July 1851 for a Margaret Harries, full age, residence Heol y Cae (same as was on David Harries marriage in 1841); father Thomas Harries, labourer.
She marries Thomas Jones, miner (same residence) whose father is David Jones, deceased.
Witnesses are Thomas Harries and David Davies

There is also marriage of a William Harries, iron baller, (full age) on 23rd August 1847 to Eleanor Davies. He also gives his address as Heol y Cae, father Thomas Harries, limestone breaker.

Added*
1851 census William Harris, 28, iron baller, born Vaynor, Breconshire, living at 143 High Street, Cefn with wife Eleanor aged 24, and daughters Margaret age 3 and Ann age 1 - all born Vaynor, Breconshire which would fit with Cefn being in Breconshire for the census and not Merthyr, although I expect you would still register in Merthyr Town

[Deirdre784]

Mar, brilliant once again 

I've been trawling through the Vaynor records for any other Harris/Harries and Coombes/Combs etc marriages (sadly Ann Harris married John Coombes in the register office) this morning and have found 2 others I was interested in, but not those. Will add them in to my tree now  As you say, it all helps to build a picture. 

As I've been unable to find a birth registration for Ann Harris, I'm thinking of contacting the Merthyr registration office and see if they can look in the register for me. The only problem is that I only have the very messy 1851 census where she is aged 4, and her death on 12 Mar 1874 (aged 26) to go on, as I've not yet found the family in 1871. I'll wait until the GRO copy of her marriage arrives to see if that gives any further age.

Once again, many thanks Mar. I thought my searching skills had improved but you and osprey are on another level 

[MarMnkly]

No probs
I am on a bit of a break from work for a couple of weeks and so am keeping my mind occupied with all this stuff while I rest up  
So will keep nosing to see what can be found
Mar

[Deirdre784]

Much appreciated Mar, and enjoy your rest. The weather's not exactly welcoming to go out   

[osprey]

do you have the birth certs for any children born to John & Ann Coombes? If so, what address was given for any near the 1871 census?

I've had another look at the 1851 census and one of the household above the Harris one was born in Amlwch, so I think the enumerator got a little confused.

 

[Deirdre784]

Hi Osprey, they only had 2 children, Sarah Ann, my husband's 2* great grandmother, born 19 Jan 1867 at 73 Brecon Rd, Merthyr, and David, born sometime in October 1871 and died aged 2 months. Mother Ann died in 1874.

[osprey]

there's a Thomas family at 73 Brecon Road in 1871.


 

[Deirdre784]

Ann died at 11 Cross St Plantation, Penydarren on 12 March 1874.