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Re: Can you find Isabella Harrison in 1911?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 20 March 17 02:05 GMT (UK) »
It might also be worth contacting the Friends of Beckett Road cemetery and ask if plot 10094 is a private or public grave and if private who else might be buried in it.

10094 is unfortunately a common grave with no other Elliott buried there

If you find out where in the cemetery the plot is, I don't mind tootling down and taking a photo for you. If she's in one of the "guinnea graves" she'll be on the headstone - with a couple of dozen others.

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Re: Can you find Isabella Harrison in 1911?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 20 March 17 02:25 GMT (UK) »
The only children I haven't followed to 1911 are Mabel Newill, Herbert Newill, Mary Elizabeth Newill and Hannah Newill, so it's possible that she is with them, but I'm having trouble determining where they ended up.

Search for Mabel under Newell, aged 18
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Can you find Isabella Harrison in 1911?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 20 March 17 03:28 GMT (UK) »
Herbert Newell (sic) may possibly be working as a miner near Llanelly?
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Re: Can you find Isabella Harrison in 1911?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 20 March 17 07:04 GMT (UK) »
 Looking at my copy of Leeds burials, no headstone listed.
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Re: Can you find Isabella Harrison in 1911?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 20 March 17 10:31 GMT (UK) »
Common or public graves rarely, almost never, have individual headstones.
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Re: Can you find Isabella Harrison in 1911?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 20 March 17 10:45 GMT (UK) »
Morning everyone,

Well what a sad story this is turning out to be.  :(

Thank you for all of your help and hints.

I'm Leeds based too Stitch so I will be able to visit the guinnea graves myself to see if she is included, but thank you for the offer.  :)

I'm sorry to have brought you all such a depressing story. I've been a member of this forum for a few years and I've brought you tales of bigamy and spousal abuse in the past, and now this! :o

Most of my family are lovely, honest!

I suppose this could explain why Isabella drops of the radar. I'm wondering that if she wasn't already in the workhouse by 1911, as I can't seem to find her, if she may have started going by a false name to avoid association with all of this?

I don't really know what to say, it's just deeply sad all round.


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Re: Can you find Isabella Harrison in 1911?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 20 March 17 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Have you seen the actual death certificate - who registered the death? If it was one of the Workhouse staff and she was registered under the name of Elliott, then I guess she hadn't changed her name.
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Re: Can you find Isabella Harrison in 1911?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 20 March 17 16:39 GMT (UK) »
No I haven't seen the death certificate. I think that will have to wait for a while, just bought a few and can't really justify it this month.  I'll update when I do get it.
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Re: Can you find Isabella Harrison in 1911?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 20 March 17 17:02 GMT (UK) »
Following up from this, can anyone help me find her daughter Mary Elizabeth Newill in 1901? Are you allowed to do that for 1901?

From marriage banns later in that year where she marries a William Dobson in November 1901 in Potternewton, it appears that she is living at 3 Wellhouse Square (or that is my reading of it) and working as a domestic servant. I don't know if she is living with the people she works for, or if Wellhouse Square is another place.

I've found this list of Leeds streets. There is no Wellhouse Square on there (nor can I find one on a modern map), but there is a Wellhouses, so that seems to make sense.

I can't seem to turn that up on the 1901 census though. I've tried searching for just that street name and I can't find that either.

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