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information please/lookup Mullingar Smollen/Cosgrove
« on: Sunday 19 March 17 23:28 GMT (UK) »
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Please can you tell me about the smollen and Cosgrove families from Mullingar. A child called Bridget, 19th March 1866, father was Patrick and married Julia Cosgrove. There are some other unknown family members, one was a nun, sister Theckla? who passed in a convent nearby Mullingar. Bridget married John Kelly and went to America. Im not sure where the others went!
many thanks.
This is through a dna match. interesting as im looking for an unknown father.

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Re: information please/lookup Mullingar Smollen/Cosgrove
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 March 17 00:37 GMT (UK) »
Only 1 on 1901 Census born Mullingar

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Re: information please/lookup Mullingar Smollen/Cosgrove
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 March 17 01:10 GMT (UK) »
They also had Julia and Patrick but they are listed as Smullen
Patrick 1868
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03439/2262701.pdf
Julia 1864
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03604/2329460.pdf

Hang on Patrick could be incorrect mother name as Costello

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Re: information please/lookup Mullingar Smollen/Cosgrove
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 March 17 07:45 GMT (UK) »
Thank you. Seems the sister Rose,was a nun sister and not a sibling. With a 30 year age gap,probably an aunt. The DNA match with unknown father was conceived/born in Mullingar. Her family are Tipperary/Dublin people. Think these Smollen/Smullen are a paternal match that will lead back to her dad.

I need to build on it more. Please can you translate Julia's certificate. What does it say under Patrick's name,and what is his profession please.

Many thanks for your help.
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Re: information please/lookup Mullingar Smollen/Cosgrove
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 March 17 10:07 GMT (UK) »
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had a look at the baptisms some very faded including Patrick born 1868 Digur ? so you have to look in the box for parents names in the May period and you will see on the baptism that his mother is Julia Cosgrove not Costello
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635198#page/98/mode/1up

Patrick seniors occupation was Mile's Man
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Re: information please/lookup Mullingar Smollen/Cosgrove
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 March 17 13:11 GMT (UK) »
Thank you dathai, to the rescue again. ;D Finding this dad will be the end of me I'm sure! But I promised my fostered out friend I would find her some family, especially parents and I will. One down one to go! Now found Thoma smollen..think thats all of them!
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Re: information please/lookup Mullingar Smollen/Cosgrove
« Reply #7 on: Monday 20 March 17 22:39 GMT (UK) »
Hello again
Did something happen in 1854 in Ireland. I have found the marriage of Patrick smollen and Julia cosgrove in Mullingar in feb 1854, yet their first child wasn't born until nearly 10 years later, Julia in 1864.
Also in the marriage register it only states their names. Is there any other way of finding out their parents names, and their ages.
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Re: information please/lookup Mullingar Smollen/Cosgrove
« Reply #8 on: Monday 20 March 17 23:38 GMT (UK) »
Have you looked at baptisms before 1864?
Registration of births only started in 1864 so if the had any children before that they won't have birth Certs.