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Marriage by license records
« on: Monday 20 March 17 16:36 GMT (UK) »
Afternoon all,

Do such records exist?
I am trying to get more information regarding a couple married by license in 1811, i can only see the record on ancestry, it does not appear on Lan-ops or family search.
James Parkin b apx 1776 Leeds married Mary Higham b apx 1791 Lancaster, by license on 19th June 1811 at Lancaster, St Mary, Lancashire.
James was of the parish of Leeds, which is one explanation for the license, but it said Mary was of the town & parish of Lancaster. Would they have needed a license if Mary was a resident?

For info only there is a link here where i have posted regarding the family before, i went totally up the wrong garden path for a while but found the right family (residing in Woodhouse)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=764972.msg6168715#msg6168715
Byrne, Butterfield, Gilbert, Sutcliffe, Furey, Alderson, Warham, to name a few!

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Re: Marriage by license records
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 March 17 16:39 GMT (UK) »
A license would be needed if the couple did not want to wait 3 weeks for banns to be read

There was also a period when it was "fashionable" to have a license rather than banns

You might be lucky and find the License / marriage bonds etc in the local record Office
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Re: Marriage by license records
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 March 17 16:42 GMT (UK) »
Lancashire record office   

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jr4/
Marriage Bond
Date   18/06/1811
Description - Groom James Parkin
Groom age: 30
Groom occupation/status: not given
Groom marital status: not given

Groom domicile:
Place 1: Leeds
Place 2: Leeds
Place 3: Yorkshire


Bride Mary Higham
Bride age: 21
Bride marital status/occupation: Spinster

Bride domicile:
Place 1: not given
Place 2: Lancaster
Place 3: Lancashire

Place of marriage:
Church: not given
Place 1: Lancaster
Place 2: not given
Place 3: Lancashire
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Re: Marriage by license records
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 March 17 16:57 GMT (UK) »
Lancashire record office   

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jr4/
Marriage Bond
Date   18/06/1811
Description - Groom James Parkin
Groom age: 30
Groom occupation/status: not given
Groom marital status: not given

Groom domicile:
Place 1: Leeds
Place 2: Leeds
Place 3: Yorkshire


Bride Mary Higham
Bride age: 21
Bride marital status/occupation: Spinster

Bride domicile:
Place 1: not given
Place 2: Lancaster
Place 3: Lancashire

Place of marriage:
Church: not given
Place 1: Lancaster
Place 2: not given
Place 3: Lancashire
Thank you, i couldn't find this when i looked.  So were they married at St Marys as ancestry said, though this one says church not given?
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Re: Marriage by license records
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 March 17 17:04 GMT (UK) »
Just noticed as well his year of birth is out, marriage says 30 (1781) which is backed up by the 1841 census but his death record in 1844 puts him born in 1776! 
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Re: Marriage by license records
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 March 17 17:06 GMT (UK) »
Familysearch also says it was St Mary's Lancaster.   :)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NL4D-K4M
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Re: Marriage by license records
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 March 17 17:22 GMT (UK) »
The actual marriage bond will be at Lancashire Archives, you may get more information on the actual bond.

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Re: Marriage by license records
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 29 March 17 15:12 BST (UK) »
Just noticed as well his year of birth is out, marriage says 30 (1781) which is backed up by the 1841 census but his death record in 1844 puts him born in 1776! 
 :-\ :-\

Age in 1844 census will have been rounded down to the nearest multiple of 5.

A 5 year discrepancy in age recorded at the death of somebody born in 1781 is nothing to be concerned about. Back then nobody obsessed about their exact age the way we do nowadays. Before the invention of old age pensions and other age-related state benefits, nobody over 21 had any real need to know or be able to prove their age so they tended to forget it ... just as I always forget my collar size and have to be re-measured every time I want to buy a shirt. I have no practical need to remember the circumference of my neck in inches, so I don't bother. They had practical need to remember their exact age, so they didn't bother.

Also, do bear in mind that the age at death is of necessity recorded by somebody else, and is often their best guess and nothing more. I have a number of ancestors whose age is accurately recorded in the census and then wrongly recorded at death.
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