Thanks Sandra, for the many helpful replies. John Curran Baines entering New York was was unknown but I believe the reference to Lawrence Baines is wrong.
Family search.org records the birth of (1) Lawrence Baines b.1881, Liverpool, father John, mother Mary and (2) Lawrence Baines b.1881, Lancashire (Bootle) father Richard, mother Sarah. My Baines research refers to (2) and I think your note probably refers to (1). Lawrence No 2 died at sea in 1917, torpedoed by the enemy.
Which Richard Baines died on the Titanic has been a puzzle for a long time. Richard, born 1855 also had a son, Richard, born 1883. A Richard Baines went down with the Titanic, his body was not recovered and no death certificate was issued. Titanic records showing Richard's age are inconclusive, the age recorded does not match either father or son. We know Daniel Baines went to America in 1906 and the passenger manifest says he was joining his father, perhaps this suggests it was Richard junior, born 1883, who drowned at sea in 1912.
Your replies have been helpful, many thanks. What happened to Daniel Baines and his father, post 1906 still remains a mystery.
