Hi in addition to above return voyage :-
Mr L Leader 32
Mrs M Leader 38
Miss L Leader 2
Of 164 Bury New Road Manchester
And a Mrs R Landsman 34 Miss M Landsman 7 and Miss G J Landsman 4 of 83, Bury New Road Manchester departed Southampton for Cape, South Africa on the Carnavon Castle 28th October 1947
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EDIT for whatever reason the two families above plus a Mr G N Lane 26 Mrs D M V Lane 28 and Master L J Lane 1 of 21, Copenhagen Road, Gillingham, Kent have been bracketed together?
Was Rachel Landsman the sister of Louis Leader??
Birth reg FreeBMD
Rachel Leader
Sept qtr 1913
Mother's maiden name Lipman
Prestwich
Marriage FreebMD
Harry Landsman
Rachel leader
Sept qtr 1935
Manchester N
8d 1701
did Harry died before the trip to South Africa??
Death reg FreeBMD
Harry Landsman
age 37
Manchester
8d 273
Probate
Harry Landsman of 33 Dovedale Avenue Prestwich Lancashire died 21 July 1944 in N Hospital Cheetham Manchester
Administration Manchester 22 Sept to Rachel Landsman widow £355 5s 2d
these look like possible birth reg's for the Landsman children who went to south Africa
Marlene Landsman
mother's maiden name Leader
Jun 1940 Manchester
Gloria J Landsman mother's maiden name Leader
Mar qtr 19 43
Heywood Lancs
on the trip out to South Africa the Leaders gave address as 164 Bury New Road and Lois was a salesman their intended future country of residence was England
the Landsman's ( possibly Rachel was a widow at that time) gave address as 83 Bury new Road
intended country of future residence S Africa
but 17 Sept 1948 leaving Durban South Africa for southampton
Rachel Landsman 35 Housewife
Marlene Landsman 8
Gloria J Landsman 5
address going to 88(or 86) Bury New Road
future country of residence South Africa
so did the Leaders travel with widowed Rachel Landsman to South Africa hoping for her to make a fresh start??
And maybe things didn't work out for them??
It might be worth obtaining electoral rolls for these years for Bury New Road
Suz