Tremayne Floyd

[cornlanc]

Hello,

I am trying to find any information relating to my great grandma, who (according to her marriage cert) was called Grace Tremayne Floyd.  She married a Richard Ogden in 1879, in Bury, Lancs, but the place of birth is given as Camborne, Cornwall. Her age at the time of the marriage was 30, so she was born around 1849. I say 'around 1849' because in the 1881 census she is listed as 28 years old (2 years YOUNGER than when she married in 1879!)

She is given as a spinster, but I know that she turned up in Bury some time in the 1860s or 1870s with another woman 13 years her senior (Mary Floyd, listed as the mother in law of Richard Ogden on census records).  Her father - deceased at the time of marriage - was named William Floyd.  In the 1891 census, Mary Floyd is no longer registered as living with them.

I am curious as to how she arrived in Lancashire from Cornwall, and also the surname (where does the Tremayne part come from, if her mother and father were called only Floyd?) 

Thanks for any assistance or tips.

David

[nanny jan]

Welcome to Rootschat. 

FreeBMD has her birth registration:

Grace Tremayne Floyd   JunQ  1849  Redruth  9  280

I checked the new GRO online index and found that her mother's maiden name was Tremayne.

Likely marriage:

William Floyd   DecQ 1839  Helston  9  159    (bride:  Mary Tremayne)

[Barbara F]

Hi David and welcome.

Cornwall opc has Grace's baptism at Phillack daughter of William and Mary.

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=2490403

She is also on the 1861 census with her parents aged 12 and born in Phillack.  Do you have access to the censuses?

Barbara

[nanny jan]

1871 census has Grace, shown as servant, living with the Thorton family in Bury. Henry Thornton is shown as a draper.


FreeBMD Death registration:

Grace T Ogden   MarQ 1919  Bury  8c  951

[Barbara F]

Grace's entry on the 1851 census has been rather mangled and consequently indexed badly.  However she is in Phillack with William and Mary her parents. The details tally with the 1861.

Barbara

[cornlanc]

Thanks to you both.

nanny jan, so she likely just kept unofficially her mum's maiden name, as her mother would presumably have had to change her name to Floyd when she married William? Unless her mum was 'allowed' to have a double surname?  The spelling of Tremaine/Tremayne is also an issue!

Thanks Barbara. Is there a street name in Helston/Redruth/Camborne?  I don't yet have access to the census, but tomo I will be spending some time in Bury Library, where I'll have access to ancestry.co.uk and other sources. 

Looks like some time after 1861 she travelled north for some reason.  It makes sense that she was somewhere in Bury in 1871.  8 years later she married Richard Ogden (my great grandfather).   Was her mother Mary with her  at the Thornton's?   If not, it looks like Grace travelled to Lancashire alone for some reason and her mum joined later (possibly because her husband William died in Cornwall in 1870).   (I've discounted Grace being married in Cornwall and them coming to Bury together because of her surname).  A move alone makes me curious (I know Cornish men travelled far and wide for work as miners). 

[Barbara F]

1851 Census ref HO107 1916 f 545 page 10. She is indexed as Gina Floyd a boy!
1861 census ref  RG 9 1584 f 165 page 10. Address is Penpond, Camborne.

Barbara

Mary Floyd, widow, is in Crowan in 1871 with a 6 year old granddaughter Bertha. ref RG10 2310 f 11 page 14. The location fits with the burail for William in 1870 which is on Cornwall opc.

[nanny jan]

Grace was given her mother's maiden name;  I have a few ancestors (male and female) who were given, as a middle name, a surname connected with a family member. My uncle had his granny's maiden name and a 2xgt.aunt had the surname of her aunt's husband.

It was the choice of the parents, that is how Grace was named.