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John Humphreys 1843
« on: Wednesday 22 March 17 12:32 GMT (UK) »
John Humphreys was born in 1843 in Ludlow to Richard and Mary. In 1851 1861 he was living with his parents in Ludlow. Occ in 1961 was shoemaker.

In 1881 and 1891 he was living in Birmingham with his wife Mary and daughter Alice (1873). His occupation was now Police Constable. In 1901 still in Birmingham with his wife and retired.

Can anyone see him in 1871 and also his marriage to Mary.? Did they have more children (other than Alice). I couldn't find the deaths of  John or Mary.

Any help appreciated.

Bob

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Re: John Humphreys 1843
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 22 March 17 12:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi

It looks like the marriage is at Birmingham Immanuel 14th May 1871
John 29 bach shoemaker 51 Holliday St s of Richard shoe maker
Mary Stanley 30 spinster 7 Stoke St  John labourer

wit Edward Humphreys and Phoodr? Sharp

a comment underneath settled with Sanders  ( a word I can't read).

Alice baptised St Thomas 16.3.1873  from St Vincent St policeman.

ps Alice looks like only child having checked new GRO index.

possible death John Humphreys Dec 1903 born 1842 6D 7. and he's buried at Key Hill Cemetery grave KH C300 burial 44802.
It looks like Mary died latter in Kings Norton Mar 1918 age 77 6D 109

She is on the 1911 census but hard to find-try Mary Humphreys Edgbaston age 69  born Gloucestershire

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Re: John Humphreys 1843
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 22 March 17 13:35 GMT (UK) »

Mary before her marriage

1851 census Snowshill Gloucestershire
John Stanley  45 ag lab Snowshill Gloucestershire
Sophia 45 Sandford Berkshire
Joseph 15 ag lab Snowshill
Hannah 12
Mary 10
Sarah 8
Job 6
Mary mother widow 84 pauper ag lab Pendrock Worcestershire.

Can't see either of them 1871 census ,turns out Halliday street was were brother Edward was living in 1861 but can't see him in 1871 either.

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Re: John Humphreys 1843
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 22 March 17 13:47 GMT (UK) »


This looks like John's death:

Deaths Dec 1903   Humphreys John, aged 61, Birmingham  6d 7

Quite a few possibles for Mary on FreeBMD


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Re: John Humphreys 1843
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 22 March 17 13:54 GMT (UK) »
1871  191 Tennant Street Birmingham
Thomas Goodman 38 bootmaker  Stourport
Maria wife 30 dressmaker Bristol
Annie E 2  Stourport
Thomas A 4mths
Annie M Painter 11 servant  Hook Norton
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Edward Humphries widower 44 bootmaker Ludlow
John 28 unmarried boot maker Ludlow

Edward buried Key hill 1902 KH  S 26.
So maybe why John buried there.

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Re: John Humphreys 1843
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 March 17 14:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Thank you for looking and finding the info. I found Mary in 1911. Although I found John's death in 1903 and a link to Key Hill Cemetery I can't find the details you provided. Can you see a photo/picture of the grave?

Do you think that Mary was also buried at Key Hill?

Bob

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Re: John Humphreys 1843
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 23 March 17 07:20 GMT (UK) »
ciderdrinker

Can you help again?
I found some info in JQRT for John Humphreys but couldn't find Edward !!! Where did you find his details?

Bob

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Re: John Humphreys 1843
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 23 March 17 12:23 GMT (UK) »
Hello
It is on there.
No photo but here's the transcription for Edward in a public grave S26

Cemetery   Key Hill
Area   Graves
Section   S
Number   26
Type   Public
Description   
Depth   Not Known
Interments   54
Memorial Inscription
“In loving memory of “ Henry W. Parker, died September 28 1901, aged 60 years; Thomas Moore, died December 24 1901, aged 50 years; John Groves, died January 9 1902, aged 63 years; Lance Corp. Fred Groves, died of Enteric Fever S. Africa December 31, aged 25 years; Henry Pickering, died May 9 1902, aged 62 years; Maria Sivitter, died July 28 1902, aged 42 years; Charles Morgan, died August 2 1902, aged 46 years; Elizabeth Dowler, died September 20 1902, aged 87 years; Edward Humphreys, died October 20 1902, aged 76 years; John J. Owens, died November 12 1902, aged 56 years; Harry Collett, died November 16 1902, aged 10 years; Charlotte Stevens, died December 3 1902, aged 63 years; Sarah Green, died November 20 1902, aged 75 years; John T. Moreton, died November 6 1902, aged 12 years; Ethel E. Hobley, died November 22 1902, “Safe in the arms of Jesus”, aged 7 years; Ann Palmer, “At rest.”, died January 17 1902, aged 69 years; Susannah Peart, “Only asleep”, died October 11 1902, aged 86 years.


You say you have John's which has a slightly different spelling Humphreys.

I've tried all the spellings I can think of but no luck for Mary .

Sorry
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Re: John Humphreys 1843
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 23 March 17 18:30 GMT (UK) »
Gosh, the inscription details are really good - the info I found for John was not as detailed as this; can you see similar detail for John.

I really appreciate your help.

Thanks

Bob