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Re: Where were they in the 1901 census
« Reply #18 on: Monday 27 March 17 22:15 BST (UK) »
Hi All,
The information in my initial message about Patrick Audley came from imigration records on entry into the USA in 1908. He gave his last place of Abode as Moycullen, Ireland.

I have now found two other people (female) with the Audley Surname who entered into America on the same day in 1904 and were therefore presumably sisters. They both gave their last place of abode as Moycullen, Ireland and like Patrick were heading to a sister living in Washington DC.

They are Annie Audley aged 19 in 1904 and Norah Audley aged 24 in 1904
Can anybody tell me where these two people were in the 1901 census of Ireland. I have tried what are to me the obvious miss spellings of the surname but I am perhaps missing the obvious.

Thanks in anticipation of your help

Regards
The Wirral Way

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Re: Where were they in the 1901 census
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 28 March 17 11:54 BST (UK) »
I don't see an immediate census return but...

Robert ADDILLY m Mary MOLONEY on Jul 30 1879 in Killannin/Rosscahill
LINK to church record
I can see no civil record

They had at least four children - baptisms in Kilanin that are free online only go up to 1880
bap. Dec 26 1880 Honoria LINK Mother shown as Ellen McDONAGH which I think is incorrect as same as sponsor
bap. Aug 15 1883 Sarah ADDILLY
bap. Mar 12 1885 Anne ADDILY
bap. Sept 18 1887 Patrick ADDILLY

This family does not seem to have census returns or civil records but does match the information in your request

Someone else may be able to locate them officially!! ;D




Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Where were they in the 1901 census
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 28 March 17 12:24 BST (UK) »
I don't see an immediate census return but...

Robert ADDILLY m Mary MOLONEY on Jul 30 1879 in Killannin/Rosscahill
LINK to church record
I can see no civil record

They had at least four children - baptisms in Kilanin that are free online only go up to 1880
bap. Dec 26 1880 Honoria LINK Mother shown as Ellen McDONAGH which I think is incorrect as same as sponsor
bap. Aug 15 1883 Sarah ADDILLY
bap. Mar 12 1885 Anne ADDILY
bap. Sept 18 1887 Patrick ADDILLY

This family does not seem to have census returns or civil records but does match the information in your request

Someone else may be able to locate them officially!! ;D






There is this family in 1901 in Park
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Wormhole/Park/1395182/
Kate?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1891/02365/1883312.pdf
Patrick 1887
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02534/1938651.pdf

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Re: Where were they in the 1901 census
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 28 March 17 12:37 BST (UK) »
Very good Sinann

The variants in the name and lack of consistent registration is difficult to keep up with

The church records show another ADDILLY family

Pat ADDILLY & Bridget HYNES ahd at least three children baptised in Kilanin/Tuam around the same period
1876 Anne; also has a civil record as ADLEY; LINK # 265
1878 Lawrence
1880 Sabina ; also has a civil record transcribed as ANDLY & AUDLY LINK # 87

But this family does not seem to appear on the 1901 or 1911 census either, I think  ;)
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder


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Re: Where were they in the 1901 census
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 28 March 17 12:41 BST (UK) »
If that is the correct family in Wormhole in 1901 - this is them in 1911 LINK

It shows the son Patrick as 24 and married with two children which does not tie in with the original request
Patrick AUDLEY m Mary WALSH Jan 30 1908 LINK
There are birth records up to 1915 online
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Where were they in the 1901 census
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 28 March 17 13:56 BST (UK) »
It begs the question were Patrick, Norah and Annie going to the same sister in Washington?
You could have a group of cousins in Washington.
Wirral do you have the name of the sister in Washington?

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Re: Where were they in the 1901 census
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 28 March 17 22:12 BST (UK) »
Hi myluck! and  Sinann,

Firstly I have now managed to identify Patrick Audley in the 1910 US Federal Census  although his surname is recorded as Adittley!! He is  recorded in the census as 'brother in Law' and living with John and Bridget Kelly in Sherman Avenue Washington DC. So Bridget was his sister which myluck! managed to identify in an earlier message

The sister Norah and Annie were heading for a Mrs U J Whelan, 257, 37th Street, Washington DC,
I have found another sister who emigrated to the USA in 1902 her name was Sarah Audley aged 19 and was heading for her sister recorded as Maggie Whelan at 257, 37th Street, Washington DC

Please accept my apologies I have not read as yet your messages of today. (I have been looking after my 19 month old Grandson all day today; great fun but tyring) I will read them tomorrow after looking after the grandson again!! My  immediate next step is to transcribe the 1910 census for Patrick Audley, having found it I do not want to lose it!!

Regards
The Wirral Way

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Re: Where were they in the 1901 census
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 28 March 17 22:37 BST (UK) »
I wonder if the  U J Whelan could be M J Whelan
Possible Marriage 1891
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X218-3QC
Daughter born 1895 both parents born Ireland
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F75G-LH3

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Re: Where were they in the 1901 census
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 29 March 17 11:30 BST (UK) »
There is also a possible marriage for Bridget AUDLEY on Apr 01 1891 LINK

The 1910 census states that they had three children, all deceased - this is probably one LINK

based on the connections found you have

Patrick AUDLEY (30) who travelled in 1908 on the 1910 census with his sister
Bridget AUDLEY KELLY (31 in 1910) , who had married John KELLY on Apr 01 1891 in Washington
     and emigrated 1887

Separate there are
Sarah AUDLEY (19) who emigrated in 1902 and went out to her sister
Maggie AUDLEY WHELAN (26 in 1900 ?) of 257 37th Street, Washington DC
Norah AUDLEY (24) who emigrated in 1904 andher sister
Annie AUDLEY (19)  who went out to Mrs U J WHELAN of 257 37th Street, Washington DC

What is now needed is a definitive connection between all six people

If the connection is with parents Robert ADDILLY and Mary MOLONEY previously given
and DoBs are good match for Patrick 1878, Annie 1880, Sarah 1883 and Honoria/Norah 1885

There is a death in 1900 of a widower named Robert AUDLEY LINK #119
This would imply both parents were deceased before 1901 and would explain not being on the census

I will look again for a Bridget and Margaret/Maggie
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder