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Re: Marriage for Thomas Davies (1816) and Elizabeth (1820) around Builth
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 23 March 17 21:32 GMT (UK) »
it could be that she'd also been baptised like her siblings in a non-conformist church but she chose to be baptised in the Anglican Church. As not all non-conformist records survive or are online, there's no way to be sure.

FindMyPast has many parish records from Wales, they have the contract. They are also indexed on FamilySearch.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01js1/ 

There's an amount transcribed on FreeReg as well, including some non-conformist. That's where I found the Horeb records.

https://www.freereg.org.uk/ 

But there isn't one site which has everything.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Marriage for Thomas Davies (1816) and Elizabeth (1820) around Builth
« Reply #10 on: Friday 24 March 17 00:08 GMT (UK) »
it could be that she'd also been baptised like her siblings in a non-conformist church but she chose to be baptised in the Anglican Church. As not all non-conformist records survive or are online, there's no way to be sure.

FindMyPast has many parish records from Wales, they have the contract. They are also indexed on FamilySearch.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01js1/ 


There's an amount transcribed on FreeReg as well, including some non-conformist. That's where I found the Horeb records.

https://www.freereg.org.uk/ 

But there isn't one site which has everything.


Ahh...fascinating. So does that mean that the marriage between Thomas and Elizabeth in 1841 was also in an Anglican church? Or just her baptism?

Interesting if so...would be the first bit of C of E I've encountered in any branch of our family tree to date  - they all seemed to be Presbyterian through and through for generations back.

Thanks for your help too re. location of Welsh records - I had no idea the contracts for them were held by different places. Will keep findmypast in mind if I need to go looking further.

Thanks again for your help, everyone :-) I thought I wasn't going to get any further with the Welsh side of the family so it's really exciting to see these discoveries.

Jx

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Re: Marriage for Thomas Davies (1816) and Elizabeth (1820) around Builth
« Reply #11 on: Friday 24 March 17 21:09 GMT (UK) »
the 1841 marriage was in the parish church, so anglican.In England & Wales, from Hardwicke's Marriage Act of 1754 until civil registration started in July 1837, marriages had to take place in a parish church except for Quakers & Jews. From civil registration, marriages could take place in a non-conformist church but a registrar had to be present. This was the case until the 1890s.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/nonconformists/
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Marriage for Thomas Davies (1816) and Elizabeth (1820) around Builth
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 25 March 17 01:07 GMT (UK) »
Thank you :-)

Excuse my ignorance, but are you saying that if something is called a "Parish Church" then it's necessarily Anglican? I didn't realise that, if so. (or perhaps I've misunderstood your comment.)

Thanks also for that informative link - super helpful.

I've been up to my elbows exploring the Scottish side of the family, so I'm not so familiar with the English / Welsh system of documentation. This is all great stuff to know :-)

Cheers,

Jen


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Re: Marriage for Thomas Davies (1816) and Elizabeth (1820) around Builth
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 26 March 17 19:36 BST (UK) »
in Wales at that time, a parish church would be Anglican/C of E as that was the established church. The Church in Wales was disestablished by the Welsh Church Act 1914

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_in_Wales

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb