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Re: Robert Stevens/Seale
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 29 March 17 21:17 BST (UK) »
Hi All
Alan, Betty will be very pleased to hear your thoughts.
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Alan would there have been an overseas recruitment campaign for the Mangahao scheme?
worldwide newspapers and so on?

Sue

In a quick look this morning I was surprised how few adverts I could find in the NZ general press offering work on the various contracts involved in the Mangahao / Arapeti Public Woks project.

The Gazette's would have advertised the Public Works contracts on offer, plus seeking specialist services / appointments.

The discharge offices of all the WWI Services were struggling to find / refer those discharged to civil employment, and schemes like Re-hab farming settlements took some time to get up and running.

I can only assume public notice bulletins of Public Works requirements / contracts, in all public offices were deemed adequate. Therefore those of a general labouring type [not specialist surveyors / engineers] coming from Australia, would have had some form of local contact, before setting out for NZ.

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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 30 March 17 00:20 BST (UK) »
From the Sydney Morning Herald (NSW, Australia), 30 December 1921 it seems British Firms were successful for £100,000 worth of plant.

Perhaps the plant operators including Donkey Men came direct from the UK as seafreight with the plant to help install and commission it.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15964699

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Any thoughts as to how to check for any passengers accompanying that freight? 

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Re: Robert Stevens/Seale
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 30 March 17 01:49 BST (UK) »
Hello again.

My reply would be that with both sides of the Tasman there was considerable experience with large engineering projects. Originally timber and gold winning, then into railways, and hydro and public water supply works, before the depression started to bite into the respective economies. Big items of plant would have been obtained by tender, from the industrial cities like Glasgow and shipped out in pieces to be fabricated on site. Like the pelton wheels, turbines etc.

From what I have read of the forum threads your subject by then was in his mid to late twenties, probably following war time service, which could have added to his labouring based skill set, with service in the transport, and or, engineering Corps. Likewise by the 1920's stationary motors were finding their way even into out back rural communities, for logging, milking and shearing, so young men with a mechanical bent would have been readily available to step up, and take charge of one.

From previous research, I would be inclined to believe that he learnt of this public works project from contacts, and may have even travelled with a mate to the work in NZ. Proving it being an other story as you well know.

Alan.

PS From research into the 1920's West Auckland Nihotupu Dam project, I know with that dam there were many locally published and non published accounts by those associated with the project. Several being well illustrated with photos etc. It could well be worthwhile making contact with Shannon local historians and local libraries.
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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 30 March 17 03:25 BST (UK) »
Many thanks. Have emailed the Library at Shannon. Betty


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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 30 March 17 09:12 BST (UK) »
Another thought. Have you Betty, gone through the Otaki electoral roll for the NZ election held on December 7th 1922. Compulsory enrolment did not come into force until the following election, but he may have registered to vote, if he envisioned seeing out the construction period. A look through the voters with the Mangaone and Arapeti construction camps as their address, may throw up surnames you are familiar with in Queensland, or Sydney.

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OOP's above intended to read Mangahao & Arapeti camps. News report 42 men in the "Top" camp by February 1921.
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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 30 March 17 09:16 BST (UK) »
Or India ;) Not heard of it before now, Alan. Will see what I can see. Soon. Cheers Betty

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« Reply #15 on: Thursday 30 March 17 10:44 BST (UK) »
Hands thrown up in the air  >:( >:( I could not find the electoral roll. I'm obviously not squinting at the computer correctly.  :P Is someone able to send me a link, please, and then I'll take it from there. :) Ta Betty

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« Reply #16 on: Friday 31 March 17 01:57 BST (UK) »
After another frustrating search, so I decided to send an email to the electoral authorities. :) :)
This is assuming that Robert decided to vote, which he may have done, if he'd been in the country for a few years.
If only we could find passenger lists. I'm not complaining as I'm surprised that so much information from various sources has been digitized. It is a big help to researchers in all fields. And hats off to those who put in the thousands of hours transcribing etc. Cheers, Betty

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« Reply #17 on: Friday 31 March 17 05:02 BST (UK) »
Hands thrown up in the air  >:( >:( I could not find the electoral roll. I'm obviously not squinting at the computer correctly.  :P Is someone able to send me a link, please, and then I'll take it from there. :) Ta Betty

Hi Betty. 

Sorry I do not subscribe to the Genealogy sites that have transcribed copies of electoral rolls. If it was one of those services, you may find that they have yet to include the 1922 rolls for the electorate you are interested in. What would be good, would be if a local could search the original rolls, presumably held by the local libraries, for surnames that you feel may have been associated with your person of interest. If you get good feed back from the Shannon Library, further your enquiry to see what suggestions that they have. A while since I have studied electoral rolls of that period, but one Saturday morning assisted with the printing of a local one in the 1970's.

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