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Re: Martha Stewart problems.
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 02 April 17 12:46 BST (UK) »
possible for Martha aged 18 in 1841 in Barrholm Street, Kilbarchan, occupation cotton factory

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VYC1-J39
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Martha Stewart problems.
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 02 April 17 12:53 BST (UK) »
possible for Martha aged 18 in 1841 in Barrholm Street, Kilbarchan, occupation cotton factory

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VYC1-J39

I agree, I did find her and her future husband also in the same Street, he remained there till his death.

1841 Barrholm Street.  Kilbarchan
Robt Hohm  50
 Jean Hohm  45
 *** James Hohm  20
 Ander (Andrew) Hohm  15
 Alexr Hohm  (Alexander) 13
 Mary Hohm  9
 Archd Hohm ( Archibald) 4
 Jean Hohm  15 silk hand loom weaver
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Re: Martha Stewart problems.
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 02 April 17 13:20 BST (UK) »
May be no link, but The Scotsman in September 1843, has mention under its Bankrupts section, a James Stewart, Grocer, in Paisley.

This is the only grocer  I can find,  but too young and I`m not sure about the area.

James Stewart Age:30 Where born:Renfrewshire, Scotland
Civil Parish:Houston and Killellan County:Renfrewshire
Address:Houston Village
Occupation:Grocer & Sp Deal
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Re: Martha Stewart problems.
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 02 April 17 13:26 BST (UK) »
the second wife of James Gardner looks to be Agnes McQueen from birth of son Matthew

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQXR-5YF

so marriage 6 Sep 1850

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYQ7-7XN

I wonder if there any other siblings who may have lived until civil registration or who may have records that help? Mary probably the oldest the child as marriage of parents 26 June 1819

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY31-9L9

I wonder if Samuel followed his father's occupation? If Andrew was also a ship's carpenter, he may have died at sea.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: Martha Stewart problems.
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 02 April 17 14:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks,
This is my problem. Was her father James, or could her husband have made a mistake with his name. I doubt he would get his other details wrong.
Was her father Andrew, and is she the same girl born to Andrew and Janet,  and was he a grocer.   
James Holms and Martha Stewart Feb 12 1842 at Kilbarchan ,Renfrewshire
 proclamation of marriage; There are no other details at all.

In 1851 and 1861 Martha states she was born Johnstone , Renfrewshire

Death  Registration Certificate.
Martha Holms died December 1861 aged 39.   Barholm, Kilbarchan,
Her parents are named as James Stewart, grocer formerly a soldier, deceased, and Janet maiden surname Craig , deceased.
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Re: Martha Stewart problems.
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 02 April 17 16:25 BST (UK) »
What you have now point the more to Andrew being her father
Martha states she was born Johnstone which you found is part of the parish of Abbey which is where the christening record for Martha daughter of Andrew and Janet Have you viewed this on Scotland's People it may have more information than what is in the index

According to the census it looks like that James and Martha followed the naming pattern after the birth of their first daughter 1st son called Robert after his paternal grandfather 2nd son Andrew 2nd daughter Janet after her maternal grandmother 3rd daughter Jean after her paternal grandmother

If you haven't downloaded the christening of Andrew and Janet children that would be my next step as it may give Andrew occupation

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Re: Martha Stewart problems.
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 02 April 17 16:49 BST (UK) »
Just spent some more credits.
Martha legitimate daughter of Andrew and Janet, residence Johnston.
Sadly no occupations on any of the entries.



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Re: Martha Stewart problems.
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 02 April 17 17:32 BST (UK) »
At least that's another fact that matches up the 2 Martha's were born Johnstone Pity it didn't also state father's occupation if it had said grocer then I would feel pretty confident that they were the same one

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Re: Martha Stewart problems.
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 02 April 17 18:10 BST (UK) »
It`s a pity that there wasn`t more info on the  death reg of Samuel Stewart that Osprey found.

just checked the death reg, parents noted as Andrew Stewart & Janet ms Craig.

Martha`s parents were both dead by 25 December 1861.

SP  NO, Parents / other details.
The only death in the Abbey district for Andrew Stewart is aged 80 on 11/03/1853.
 4 Janet Stewart`s of varying ages in Abbey 
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