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Re: Martha Stewart problems.
« Reply #9 on: Friday 31 March 17 08:13 BST (UK) »
Who registered Martha's death could they have got the name of her father wrong and is there a son called Andrew or James born to Martha and John
Her  husband.
Andrew , James, Janet.
Martha died 12 days after giving birth to a child that was given the middle name Gardner.
This still doesn`t help.

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Re: Martha Stewart problems.
« Reply #10 on: Friday 31 March 17 21:21 BST (UK) »
Sorry was trying to post whilst dealing with my daughter what I was hoping was that they had followed the naming pattern. I had a quick look on family search and found no children registered between the marriage and 1855 so they could have had other children but didn't get their names recorded in the parish book. Also found a Margaret Gardner married a James Stewart in 1840 in Paisley This James maybe a brother of Martha with Martha and James Holms naming one of their children after her
What I'm tying to say is that you have only one source of her parents and as you can find no record of them or Martha's christening it may help to go side ways and try and find siblings and look for their records

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Re: Martha Stewart problems.
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 01 April 17 12:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks.
The only birth match for a Martha Stewart  about the right time  is Andrew Stewart and Janett Craig 16 Feb 1823 Abbey .
I have found this one on an online tree, but with only her birth, I`m trying to follow this up just to see if there are any clues.

 Interesting theory about Gardner and worth looking at.
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Re: Martha Stewart problems.
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 01 April 17 14:07 BST (UK) »
So far I`ve found nothing, no siblings for Martha, and no children of James  Stewart and Margaret Gardner.
No children found on Anc , SP  or Family Search with a match for names.
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Re: Martha Stewart problems.
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 01 April 17 20:36 BST (UK) »
Had another look found Martha and family in 51 and 61 and apart from their first daughter being called Martha if they followed the naming pattern then I would say Martha parents were Andrew and Janet and James were Robert and Jean/Jane Or as they haven't had the children born prior to 1855 recorded in the parish books Martha and her siblings may not have been recorded in the parish books either
Also looked for James and Margaret  in the census but couldn't see any that looked possibles

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Re: Martha Stewart problems.
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 02 April 17 11:44 BST (UK) »
I may have found something, but proving it is another matter.

Martha Stewart  parents Andrew Stewart and Janet Craig 1823 Abbey .
This is on SP but  can`t find it on  Family Search.
Other children   of this couple Family Search / SP
Mary Stewart  1820    1820     Abbey Paisley
Samuel Stewart  1825     Abbey Paisley

1841 Johnston
Samuel Stuart 16 no occ b Renfrewshire
He is with  John Cameron cotton spinner and   Jane Cameron.

 
Samuel Stewart married Isobel Alexander 1848 Greenock, Renfrew,
1851 , Greenock
Samuel Stewart  26 ships carpenter b Johnstone 
Isabel Stewart  25 b Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire
Jane Stewart  1  b Greenock, Renfrewshire.

By 1861 Samuel is missing, this may be his death
Samuel Stewart aged 31 died  1856 Greenock East


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Re: Martha Stewart problems.
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 02 April 17 12:08 BST (UK) »
just checked the death reg, parents noted as Andrew Stewart & Janet ms Craig. Death registered by William Alexander brother-in-law, leading to this marriage

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
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Re: Martha Stewart problems.
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 02 April 17 12:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks. If only there were details of Andrews occupation, if he was a grocer then that would be a match for Martha`s father.

I think this is the other child, and may be where the Gardner name fits in.
Margaret Gardner Holms, born 1861  daughter of Martha Stewart

Mary Stewart  married James Gardner 1837 Kilbarchan Renfrewshire
1841 Kilbarchan.
James Gardner 25   silk hand loom weaver b Renfrewshire
Mary Gardner 25 b Renfrewshire
James 5
Jean 2

 Now it gets messy.

1851 Kilbarchan , all children born  Kilbarchan.
James Gardner  39  handloom weaver b Kilbarchan
 Agnes Gardner  24 b Ayrshire
 James Gardner  16
 George Gardner  14
 John Gardner  9
 Mary Gardner  5

Back  to 1841 Houston and Killellan Renfrewshire
George Gardner 4 b Renfrewshire
He is with a Wilson family.

So has Mary died. Agnes it too young to be the mother of all these children.
If she has then there will no details of her  parents to check occupation .

I can't  see any way to confirm Andrew Stewarts  occupation

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Re: Martha Stewart problems.
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 02 April 17 12:22 BST (UK) »
May be no link, but The Scotsman in September 1843, has mention under its Bankrupts section, a James Stewart, Grocer, in Paisley.

Several mentions of an Andrew Stewart, merchant, associated with Greenock, Paisley and Glasgow in timescale, but his wife seems to have been an Ann (referred to in 1844 as being widow of Andrew).

update:

ruled out this Andrew as Ann was  a McGregor. They married in 1820.
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