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William Allen - Marriage 1859
« on: Friday 31 March 17 14:21 BST (UK) »
Wonder if somebody would be able to  look up a  marriage for me, would be most helpful.  I have William Allen and Ann Bell 7th August 1859, All Saints Newcastle Upon Tyne.  Any information with that marriage would be appreciated.

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Re: William Allen - Marriage 1859
« Reply #1 on: Friday 31 March 17 14:46 BST (UK) »
Can only see transcript but father Edward Allen.  William is 25.

Ann is 20.  Father Thomas Bell.

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Re: William Allen - Marriage 1859
« Reply #2 on: Friday 31 March 17 23:42 BST (UK) »
Transcript showing their ages and their fathers names is on FS where you presumably got the date of marriage from?


Name    William Allen
Spouse's Name    Ann Bell
Event Date    07 Aug 1859
Event Place    All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England


Name    William Allen
Birth Date    1834
Age    25
Spouse's Name    Ann Bell
Spouse's Birth Date    1839
Spouse's Age    20
Event Date    1859
Event Place    All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Father's Name    Edward Allen
Spouse's Father's Name    Thomas Bell
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Re: William Allen - Marriage 1859
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 01 April 17 01:57 BST (UK) »
Thankyou Milliepede and Carol W. for your replies. Unfortunately not the one I am after. Will keep searching.  Thanks once again, much appreciated.

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Re: William Allen - Marriage 1859
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 01 April 17 02:49 BST (UK) »
Wonder if somebody would be able to  look up a  marriage for me, I have William Allen and Ann Bell 7th August 1859, All Saints Newcastle Upon Tyne.

Hmm,

You say this isn't the one your after from Carole...

"William Allen
Spouse's Name    Ann Bell
Event Date    07 Aug 1859
Event Place    All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne"

Seems to be a very big coincidence if not the same couple?

What reason do you know they are not the same couple, have to say I'm curious with such exact details being different couples  :-\

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Re: William Allen - Marriage 1859
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 01 April 17 04:33 BST (UK) »
The William Allen I am looking for is the son of Peter  Allen. No idea who his wife Ann is. They were travelers, so was looking also to an appropriate occupation. Both saying they were born in Newburn Northumberland. But whether that is correct who knows with travelers.   

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Re: William Allen - Marriage 1859
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 01 April 17 11:36 BST (UK) »
So I presume this is your William?

WILLIAM Allen Baptised 15 Oct 1833, St Michael, Alnwick
Parents PETER/ELIZABETH
Abode Pottergate
Fathers Occp Hawker
Siblings;
JAMES 4 June 1820
WILLIAM 15 Oct 1823 (must have died)
PETER 1 Jan 1826
THOMAS 5 Aug 1827
ANDREW 24 March 1832
All have same details Father a Hawker
There are others to a Peter/Elizabeth but Father is a Sweep (may be same man)
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Peter ALLAN, Widower, married Elizabeth TAYLOR, Spinster, 8 June 1818, St Michael, Alnwick


Is this him in 1871 in Durham?

William Allen, 35, Basket Maker, born Newcastle Upon Tyne
Ann Allen, 22
Margt Allen, 8
Ann Allen, 5
Elizth Allen, 2
Maria Allen, 1 Month

1881 Census
William Allen, 40, Head, Basket Maker, born Bishop Aukland, Durham
Ann Allen, 38
Ann Allen, 16
Betsey Allen, 13
Maria Allen, 10
Mary Allen, 8
Peter Allen, 6
Thomas Allen, 19, Son, Mar
Margaret Allen, 17
William Allen, 1

1891 Census
William Allen, 50, Head, Hawker, born Newburn, Northumberland
Ann Allen, 45
Maria Allen, 21
Peter Allen, 16
Sarah Allen, 14
Charlotte Allen, 13
Jane Allen, 3
William Allen, 8/12

Names match except Sarah/Charlotte arent there in 1881.

1901 Census
William Allan, 62, Head, General Hawker, born Newcastle, Northamptonshire*
Ann Allan, 58
Moriah Allan, 30
Peter Allan, 25
Charlotte Allan, 18
Jane Allan, 16
William Allan, 12
Mary Allan, 8





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Re: William Allen - Marriage 1859
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 01 April 17 12:14 BST (UK) »
1871 Census;
Maria Allen is born c 1871 Darlington, Durham.
Margaret Allen c 1863 Harrogate, Yorkshire
Ann Allen c 1866 Sunderland, Durham

Recently the GRO has indexed Births/Deaths.
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If that is your Family I have posted I have looked these up for you;


ALLEN, MARIA, Mothers mn   WATSON****
GRO Reference: 1871  J Quarter in DARLINGTON UNION  Volume 10A  Page 1

ALLAN, MARGARET Mothers mn    WATSON ****
GRO Reference: 1863  M Quarter in KNARESBROUGH  Volume 09A  Page 99

ALLEN, ANN, Mothers mn WATSON *****
GRO Reference: 1865  D Quarter in HARTLEPOOL  Volume 10A  Page 163

Strangely there is a Ann Bell Watson Marriage 1860 on FreeBMD but a William Allen/Allan is not on the same page!

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Re: William Allen - Marriage 1859
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 01 April 17 12:52 BST (UK) »
Wow Trish thank you so much, that is definitely the family in those census.  Tonight I found the baptism of William Allen in 1840 All Saints Newcastle. Don't know why it didn't come up before. He was the son of Peter and Margaret. Also found his sister Margaret baptized same place in 1843.

Thank you for the baptisms of some of the children, the name Watson makes a lot of sense, I have other Watsons that were travelers. In the 1841 census I found Peter Allen  with son William and an Ann Watson. Can't get that census to come up again. Will have another go. But I think Ann Watson is the wife of William Allen.  Thank you I will note all you have written. Absolutely brilliant.

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Harker,Swales, Stephenson: Stokesley, Stockton,  South Bank, Middlesbrough Yorkshire.
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