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McManus: Aghagallon ,Antrim
McGowan: Drumshambo, Leitrim

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Re: Elizabeth Quinn, Mountnorris
« Reply #10 on: Monday 03 April 17 21:13 BST (UK) »
Mary Lizzie Quinn - born 3 November 1898 - has not been completely ruled out, but was thought by older people in the district not to be the person in question.
Elizabeth told the priest she was a minor, and a check in the baptismal register would have shown that Mary Lizzie Quinn was not a minor, but almost 22. The parish priest, Fr James Loughran, invariably (though not always) entered marriage details of both parties above their baptismal entries: in this instance he entered James's, but there is no corresponding entry above the baptism of Mary Lizzie Quinn, born 1898.
There is also the consideration that Patrick Quinn was a farmer, not a labourer, and the Land Valuation Book shows that he still owned his farm in 1929. It appears that this Quinn family sold their farm and moved away from Ardboe in the 1930s.
In the baptismal entries of the four O'Neill children, the mother is always named as Lizzie Quinn, never as Mary Lizzie.
In the 1901 and 1911 census returns for the family of Patrick Quinn, farmer, their daughter's name is entered as Mary Lizzie.
These little pointers do not discount her, but increase the likelihood that the wife of James O'Neill was another person....     


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Re: Elizabeth Quinn, Mountnorris
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 April 17 18:51 BST (UK) »
Looks like neither Lizzie nor Ellen (or Fr John, obviously) married http://www.discovereverafter.com/uploads/graveyards/sttreasnewbridgercchurch_39/347.JPG
So definitely not your Lizzie
Residents of a house 19 in Mullanahoe (Munterevlin, Tyrone)

Quinn   Patrick   48   Male   Head of Family   Roman Catholic
Quinn   Jane   48   Female   Wife   Roman Catholic
Quinn   Mary Lizzie   12   Female   Daughter   Roman Catholic
Quinn   Ellen   10   Female   Daughter   Roman Catholic
Quinn   Joseph   8   Male   Son   Roman Catholic
Quinn   John   4   Male   Son   Roman Catholic


http://www.discovereverafter.com/uploads/graveyards/sttreasnewbridgercchurch_39/227.JPG
O'Kane, O'Mullan: Garvagh Derry
Bowe: Currabaha ,Waterford
McManus: Aghagallon ,Antrim
McGowan: Drumshambo, Leitrim

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Re: Elizabeth Quinn, Mountnorris
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 04 April 17 19:48 BST (UK) »
O'Kane, O'Mullan: Garvagh Derry
Bowe: Currabaha ,Waterford
McManus: Aghagallon ,Antrim
McGowan: Drumshambo, Leitrim

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Re: Elizabeth Quinn, Mountnorris
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 05 April 17 00:10 BST (UK) »
Yes, I actually reached the same destination (Newbridge graveyard) as you, around the same time, but I was following a lead, based on an entry added above Joseph Quinn's baptismal entry - – “Married Margaret Cudden 5 July 1949 in Magherafelt parish”

I found the Cudden families in the 1911 census, in the Newbridge area, then found Margaret's birth - 13 August 1916 in Ballymaguigan (the townland which includes St Trea's church, Newbridge). The information on the headstones is quite definitive.


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Re: Elizabeth Quinn, Mountnorris
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 05 April 17 01:01 BST (UK) »
In regard to the O'Neill headstone in Stewartstown graveyard, the names are those of James and his first wife Elizabeth; his second wife, Margaret Jane née Larmour, born 10 February 1905 in Stewartstown, and their daughter Patricia Elizabeth, born 29 March 1945, married Noel Henry in Birmingham 1966. Attached death certificate of Elizabeth.