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Offline louisa maud

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Re: Can't find George Ernest Stevens
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 02 April 17 19:32 BST (UK) »
HUGE APOLOGIES
 it is Elizabeth Agnes baptised as Shuttleworth 30/11/1900
mother Ellen Jane,

Still trying to find out about the father

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Re: Can't find George Ernest Stevens
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 02 April 17 19:46 BST (UK) »
Hi again ok getting there, have you researched why Maude L b 1910 was adopted, and was Florence a Florence Lilian rather than the Florence E you show for the  birth 1907 you have tracked onward?
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PS I see the mother who "Adopted" Maud/e claims to have been "Desirted/Deserted?
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Re: Can't find George Ernest Stevens
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 02 April 17 19:53 BST (UK) »
Florence Lilian Steven mmn Shuttleworth registered December qtr 1907 ref 1c 485 Poplar

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
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Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
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Re: Can't find George Ernest Stevens
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 02 April 17 20:34 BST (UK) »
Hi,

On FindMyPast, under Crime, Prisons & Punishment there is a page that has the following:

George Stevens, alias Edward Perry, Ernest Perry, John Carruthers, John Shaw and Charles Atkinson F S a I 465 Dartmoor (this was prison no and prison). born 1864 in Cambridge, 5' 6" in height, fair skin, dk bn hair (partly bald).  Sc on nose, neck and l. eyebrow; mole l cheek.  Offence and place of conviction: Lar-N.L.S. (P.C. Essex, 633AQ).  Sentence and date of conviction: 5 yrs ps 7-1-1908. Date of Liberation, intended Address and Occupation: 8-9-1911, Central Association, London Carpenter.

If this is your man, it would account for the reason Maude L born 1910 being adopted, as she could not be his.

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Re: Can't find George Ernest Stevens
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 02 April 17 20:45 BST (UK) »
Several family trees on Ancestry have this family, one actually gives a date of birth for GEORGE STEVENS, shown as born Bethnal Green, worth a look.

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
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Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
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Re: Can't find George Ernest Stevens
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 02 April 17 20:46 BST (UK) »
Hi could well be a possible,  although there is a GRO. Index birth:-

Maud Louisa Stevens December qtr 1910 Poplar mmn Shuttleworth?
Keyboard86

As a matter of interest the children Maud is living with are an Isabella Louisa Burrows b December qtr 1897 Stepney and an Elizabeth Amelia Burrows September qtr 1894 Stepney both mmn Creanbean/Creabean?

Found mother in 1901 but children?
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Re: Can't find George Ernest Stevens
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 02 April 17 20:49 BST (UK) »
Florence Lilian Steven mmn Shuttleworth registered December qtr 1907 ref 1c 485 Poplar

Louisa Maud

Florence was definitely F Edith, on the Marriage Death and also England cemetery Register

PS I see the mother who "Adopted" Maud/e claims to have been "Desirted/Deserted?
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I can only think that the word Adopted should have Fostered cause Maud was living back with the family in 1933, found on the "London Electoral Roll"

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Re: Can't find George Ernest Stevens
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 02 April 17 20:50 BST (UK) »
In another document, it has that George was tried on the 8th Jan 1908, he was sentenced to 5 Years Penal Servitude, Wormwood Scrubs Prison.  He is aged 43 and a carpenter and it gives details of all his aliases and previous convictions going back to 1877, in various places including Middlesex Cambridge, Winchester...

ADDED  On the 1911 census there is a George Stevens, age 46, born in Cambridge in Lydford Devon.

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Bladen (Tipton, & Yorks), Teece, Cooke(Coalville), Stott (Staffs), Carr, Armitage, Henrickson, Lisle (Yorks), Pailing, Stott, Leach, Davies (Llanasa), Taylor, McDonald, Garry, Brackenbury, Brand, Rewston
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Re: Can't find George Ernest Stevens
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 02 April 17 20:56 BST (UK) »
In another document, it has that George was tried on the 8th Jan 1908, he was senced to 5 Years Penal Servitude, Wormwood Scrubs Prison.  He is aged 43 and a carpenter and it gives details of all his aliases and previous convictions going back to 1877, in various places including Middlesex Cambridge, Winchester...

ADDED  On the 1911 census there is a George Stevens, age 46, married, a carpenter born in Cambridge in Dartmoor prison.



Thank you, that is one certainly to follow up and the other thing to get is Maud's Birth Cert.

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