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Marriage of Ernest (Henry William) Kemplen approx 1890 please
« on: Sunday 02 April 17 23:32 BST (UK) »
Emily Gilderson is a person in the family tree that I lost track of.  I'm hoping I have found her. 

The Kemplens lived in St Pancras.  Ernest Kemplen and his wife Emily state they have been married for 21 years on the 1911 census.  They have no children in the 1890 census which suggests they have just married.  Ernest is a French polisher (after a stint at sea) and the father of our Emily Gilderson was also a French polisher.

I haven't found their marriage on FindMyPast or FreeBMD despite trying a few name variations. 

I'd appreciate any bright ideas for finding this marriage.  Thank you in advance.

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Re: Marriage of Ernest (Henry William) Kemplen approx 1890 please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 02 April 17 23:51 BST (UK) »
Where and when were they both born?
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Re: Marriage of Ernest (Henry William) Kemplen approx 1890 please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 03 April 17 00:01 BST (UK) »
Name   Ernest Henry William Kemplen
Birth   Apr 1862 Pancras, London

Our Emily:
Name   Emily Mary Gilderson
Registration Year   1872
Registration Quarter   Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district   Pancras

In 1881 our Emily is at 33 William St, Regents Park.  But until I have found the marriage I can't confirm that the Emily that married Ernest Kemplen is our Emily. 

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Re: Marriage of Ernest (Henry William) Kemplen approx 1890 please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 03 April 17 08:39 BST (UK) »
If there is no sign of a marriage have you given any thought to the fact that perhaps they did not marry.

Looking on the new GRO index for births of the children, they all have the mothers maiden name as GILDERSON so you are probably on the right track.

One for example is Redvers Ernest KEMPLEN born Mar qtr 1900 Pancras, mmn GILDERSON.

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Re: Marriage of Ernest (Henry William) Kemplen approx 1890 please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 03 April 17 08:57 BST (UK) »
Just a thought!  You say that Ernest had a "stint at sea" - could he have married at that time, and so the marriage took place somewhere other than England or Wales?
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Re: Marriage of Ernest (Henry William) Kemplen approx 1890 please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 03 April 17 09:12 BST (UK) »
His Naval record is on Ancestry, born 9 Apr 1863 St Pancras.

Served on various ships. Was discharged in May 1888, and also spent a bit of time in the brig. So could have got married after that and before 1891 census. No mention of him getting married in the naval records.

Looks to have died in 1916.

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Re: Marriage of Ernest (Henry William) Kemplen approx 1890 please
« Reply #6 on: Monday 03 April 17 10:51 BST (UK) »
Thank you for looking.  I think it's likely to be Emily as several details fit.  Maybe they didn't marry or it is VERY badly transcribed.

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Re: Marriage of Ernest (Henry William) Kemplen approx 1890 please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 17 April 17 23:46 BST (UK) »
The pieces of the jigsaw are falling into place.

John Hussey Fox was a witness at the marriage of Susan Elsie Mary Kemplen to Bert Stanley George in 1918.  He is Emily Gildersom's uncle.

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Re: Marriage of Ernest (Henry William) Kemplen approx 1890 please
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 July 21 19:29 BST (UK) »
Susan Elsie Mary Kemplen and Bert Stanley George are my great grandparents, and I have done a little research a while back, so we may be able to share some information.