catherine smith

[cathieee]

also it says catherine was a minor and a spinster at marriage , so she could nt have been married before ??

[heywood]

She doesn't seem to have been married before - why do you think that?

It often happened that people invented a father for respectability or other reasons. In this case, as you say, she could have named Charles but she didn't.
It may be that she had been told her father was George and even though she was raised by Charles, she preferred to name George.

Sadly we don't know the answer. You can only record what you find, compare and see what shows.

[suzard]

sometimes for the sake of covering their illegitimacy the Grandfather's name could be entered as father - no proof had to be shown .
Assuming of course she was illegitimate .
If a marriage of K Charles Dewsbury to Ann could be found we will know if Ann was a spinster or widow when she married . Maybe she married george Smith and he died shortly after Catherine was born and then Ann married K Charles Dewsbury -but until we find some documentation we are just guessing

Suz

[cathieee]

Baptism: 15 Aug 1823 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Kane Charles Dewesberry - [Child] of Thomas Dewesberry & Margaret
    Abode: Parliament Street
    Occupation: Mariner
    Baptised by: J. Pulford Curate
    Register: Baptisms 1823 - 1825, Page 52, Entry 410
    Source: LDS Film 1656418

i ve found this, mad thing is i looked up other things then went back to the above putting same criteria and now its saying 0 results lol

[rosie99]

1841
Piece 568 Bk 19 F49 P30

Thomas Nugent   54 bn Ireland
Margaret Nugent   53 bn Ireland
Sarah Dewsbury   21
Rane Charles Dewsbury   18
Chapman Dewsbury   15
William Dewsbury   11
Martha Neugent   6
rest born in County


Sorry Suz I see you posted this earlier

[heywood]

I looked at that and tried to find Martha earlier but not much luck. From memory, Sarah married someone called Somers- wonder if he was the brother of the man who married her sister.
Not that any of this helps us to find Charles' marriage.

[cathieee]

hi this was posted earlier
1841
Piece 568 Bk 19 F49 P30

Thomas Nugent   54 bn Ireland
Margaret Nugent   53 bn Ireland
Sarah Dewsbury   21
Rane Charles Dewsbury   18
Chapman Dewsbury   15
William Dewsbury   11
Martha Neugent   6
rest born in County

i also posted this earlier
Baptism: 15 Aug 1823 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Kane Charles Dewesberry - [Child] of Thomas Dewesberry & Margaret
    Abode: Parliament Street
    Occupation: Mariner
    Baptised by: J. Pulford Curate
    Register: Baptisms 1823 - 1825, Page 52, Entry 410
    Source: LDS Film 1656418

surely this would place kane charles with the family above ??, actually the rane charles and my kane charles are the same person, mis transcript, birthdate is exact , im going to look see if the other dewbury children from 1841 census have same parents

yes here s a sarah

Baptism: 21 Nov 1819 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Sarah Dewsberry - [Child] of Thomas Dewsberry & Margaret
    Abode: Stanhope St
    Occupation: Mariner
    Baptised by: P. Bulmer Curate
    Register: Baptisms 1819 - 1820, Page 163, Entry 1298
    Source: LDS film 1656418

Baptism: 15 Aug 1823 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Margaret Chapman Dewesberry - [Child] of Thomas Dewesberry & Margaret
    Abode: Parliament Street
    Occupation: Mariner
    Baptised by: J. Pulford Curate
    Register: Baptisms 1823 - 1825, Page 52, Entry 411
    Source: LDS Film 1656418

cant find a william dewsbury though, but the others are there ??

[cathieee]

just found this now

Marriage: 8 Jun 1838 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
Thomas Chapman Dewsberry - (X), Minor, Potter, Bachelor, Eccleston
Sarah Guest - (X), Minor, Spinster, Eccleston
    Groom's Father: Thomas Dewsbury, Sailor
    Bride's Father: Richard Guest, Potter
    Witness: Thomas Prescot, (X); Elizabeth Ackers, (X)
    Married by Banns by: C. G. T. Driffield, Vicar
    Register: Marriages 1837 - 1845, Page 30, Entry 60
    Source: LDS Film 1657584

[cathieee]

Baptism dated 21 Nov 1819 St Peter in Liverpool, Lancashire
Thomas Dewsberry the Child of Thomas Dewsberry and Margaret
Address given as Stanhope St    Occupation of father noted as Mariner
Baptised by P. Bulmer Curate
Baptisms  Page 163, Entry 1297    Source LDS film 1656418