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Re: 54 Thicket Road, Penge
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 April 17 15:56 BST (UK) »
Both left wills that might be interesting.

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I'm not sure that she left a will, it just says administration which I think means no will. The newspaper article also asks for the kin to apply, which suggests she may have died intestate. There wasn't a lot of money considering the size of the house and its location.
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Re: 54 Thicket Road, Penge
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 04 April 17 16:03 BST (UK) »
I could not find a birth for her, so wondered if she was a widow when they married?

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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 April 17 16:10 BST (UK) »
I could not find a birth for her, so wondered if she was a widow when they married?

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I wouldn't be surprised, as she was born 1867 so that would make her about 68 when she married Edward Richard Taylor.
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Re: 54 Thicket Road, Penge
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 04 April 17 19:48 BST (UK) »
From local directories:-

1867 to 1886:
Mostly house names are used, though there was a numbering scheme, 1-29 consecutive rather than odds/evens. I think it was called Warwick House and numbered 21, occupants surnamed Frinnehey (1867), Daniels (1871 & 1876) ,and Cousins (1878). Numbering changed by:

1886 to the 1901 census: Alfred A Newby at No 54, now called St Margaret's.

After the 1901 census to 1913:
Not shown in any directory, and is marked as empty in the 1911 census.
This could have been when someone had it as a pied-à-terre.

1914 to 1939 (when local directories ceased): Charles Neville Russell.

1949 Electoral Roll:
10 largely unrelated people, suggesting it had been divided into flats.

I didn't find an Edward Taylor in any Penge Directory between 1871 and 1939, though I didn't check every year.

Penge rate books were pulped for the war effort in WW2, so no help there. As a property owner, Taylor would be in the electoral roll, but in 1901-1964 Penge was in Kent. and I don't think the ERs are online. You could contact Bromley Local History Library and ask them to do a lookup for one or two years in 1901-1913. In the past I would have done it for you, but early ERs have been removed from open shelves and it's now faster for you to contact them directly. Quick lookups are usually free.
Researching Penge, Anerley, (incuding the Crystal Palace) and neighbouring parts of Beckenham, currently in London (Bromley), formerly Surrey and/or Kent.


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Re: 54 Thicket Road, Penge
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 04 April 17 20:39 BST (UK) »
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Mostly house names are used, though there was a numbering scheme, 1-29 consecutive rather than odds/evens.

That would be because the houses are only on one side of the road, they face Crystal Palace Park which is on the other side of the road.
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Re: 54 Thicket Road, Penge
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 04 April 17 21:43 BST (UK) »
The TAYLORs seemed to live at Can Hatch Burgh Heath (Epsom/Banstead) from at least 1910 to 1935.

Don't know why such a late marriage for them!

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Re: 54 Thicket Road, Penge
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 04 April 17 21:59 BST (UK) »
Wonder if this is them in 1901 - Weston House, Thames Ditton. All the others are servants

Edward Taylor    37 - b St Georges, London. Officer,captain reserve forces
Ada Taylor    34 - wife b St Georges London
Frances Percy    25
Annie Smih    20
Beatrice Rider    18
Annie Hill    21
Alice Hill    19
Gertrude Nightingale    23

RG13, 669, 52, 4

can only assume some impediment to marriage was the issue

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Re: 54 Thicket Road, Penge
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 04 April 17 22:02 BST (UK) »
1891?? West Hill Lewisham

Edward Taylor, 27 b Belgravia. Living on own means
Ada Taylor 24 b Brighton

RG12, 524, 81, 3

(1911 suggests they have  been together this long)

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Re: 54 Thicket Road, Penge
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 04 April 17 22:18 BST (UK) »
Edwrad Richard has illustrious forebears. his father appears to be Thomas Edward Taylor, MP, privy Councillor and one time Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster. Edward was oldest son and the chief heir when his father died in 1883.

Edward died 1938 at Ardgillan, Balbriggan

aha - a notice in the Times of 25 May 1891 giving notice to Edward Richard late of 33 flask (?) Walk Hampstead and the Theatre Royal Rotherham, theatrical proprietor and lessee and dramatical author, that he needed to appear in court to respond to his wife  Alice Marie Taylor's petition for divorce.  (her address 52 Belgrave Road Pimlico)