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Re: another Palfrey Rowlands
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 22 April 17 12:07 BST (UK) »
Many thanks, Elizabeth was missing after 1851, not with the family.
Now another one of the siblings  traced.
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Re: another Palfrey Rowlands
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 22 April 17 12:22 BST (UK) »
Apologies, replied on my sister's computer, hence the different username.
Found the marriage on find my past, certainly one of "our" Rowlands. Palfrey's signatureis proof enough.

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Re: another Palfrey Rowlands
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 22 April 17 15:38 BST (UK) »
Ellen Ann Rowlands, shown as the daughter of James in 1881 & 1891, married Thomas Jones Davies at St Mark's Cheetham Hill, Lancashire on 21 Jun 1902. 

Her father is confirmed as James Rowlands, Weaver (Deceased) & one of the witnesses is Kate Paulfre [Palfrey] Rowlands. 

Katherine & Ellen Ann Rowlands are both servants in the same household in Broughton, Lancs in 1901 - RG13/3727/127/11

MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: another Palfrey Rowlands
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 22 April 17 21:54 BST (UK) »
have now found the marriage and 1911 census for Ellen, Catherine was living with her sister,(down as sister in law to head of household)
Ancestry has thrown an answer to the Palfrey (maybe known as James Porter)
Baptism at Llanbeblig
August 1844 James Porter son of Palfrey and Catherine Rowlands. This must be the child registered as Palfrey in June 1844.
1848 James Porter son of Joseph Palfrey and Ellen Rowlands.
I wonder why did the half brothers decide to call their sons James Porter.
Thanks for all the help.


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Re: another Palfrey Rowlands
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 23 April 17 01:06 BST (UK) »
I wonder why did the half brothers decide to call their sons James Porter.

I haven't looked into the relationship, but presumably connected to James Potter Rowlands born c1796 & d1861
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: another Palfrey Rowlands
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 23 April 17 10:37 BST (UK) »
Found a James Rowlands, weaver, in 1881 and 1891 census.
He could be the son of Catherine and Palfrey.
Can not find a marriage certificate.
1881 has him married to Mary, born Nevin
1891 has him married to Rebeca born Anglesey.

Not sure if you have this now, but in 1881 James & Mary were living at Rhydlyniog, Pwllheli & there is a burial at Nevin 9 Oct 1881 Mary Rowlands, Rhydlyniog, Pwllheli, aged 39.

Possible 2nd marriage at Carnarvon Oct-Dec 1882 11b/781 - Rebecca Jones is on the same page.

As the MMN for Ellen Ann's birth was also Jones, there seems to be a choice of two marriages of James Rowlands to a Mary Jones - 1872 in Carnarvon or 1875 in Pwllheli.
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: another Palfrey Rowlands
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 23 April 17 11:32 BST (UK) »
Many thanks, I had found the burial of Mary Rowlands on yffor website.
have you found the church records somewhere, FindMyPast is not very obliging with this family.
Will have to buy his mc before I put this to rest.
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Re: another Palfrey Rowlands
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 23 April 17 11:45 BST (UK) »
The burial image is on FindMyPast, but nothing for the marriages unfortunately.
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: another Palfrey Rowlands
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 23 April 17 12:20 BST (UK) »
will have another look at FindMyPast.
thank you very much