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Offline steve59

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Nellie Smith b1894
« on: Thursday 06 April 17 09:09 BST (UK) »
Hi
I'm looking for information on Nellie Smith bc 1894, the wife of the following
Harry Laycock - b 1892 - married 13 March 1912
She deserted him during WWI whilst he was in France
Robert Batty Threlfall - b 20 May 1892 - married 31 March 1920

She also had another relationship prior to Robert Batty Threlfall with a Mr Courtney with who she had a daughter on 12 September 1918.

Nellie came from a travellers family and one of her sons, Robert Threlfall b 12 Feb 1929, was born in the 'field' of the Swan Inn at Addingham, Yorkshire.

Any information on Nellie Smith would be appreciated.

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Re: Nellie Smith b1894
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 April 17 11:26 BST (UK) »
Do you have a copy of either of her marriage certs showing her fathers name?

Have you found her on the 1901 or 1911 census to determine her birthplace?

The 1912 marriage was in Yorkshire

The 1920 marriage was in Lancaster and she married as Smith - not as Laycock.   

She died 1962 Lancaster aged 69
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Re: Nellie Smith b1894
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 April 17 11:59 BST (UK) »
Some of these details might tie up with original request 04/06/05, asking for Threlfall

Louisa Maud
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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
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Re: Nellie Smith b1894
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 06 April 17 12:03 BST (UK) »
This is the marriage for Nellie Smith age 19 spinster address Calverley.. father James William Smith no occupation given ...
Spouse Harry Laycock age 20 ..12,Sydney Street Farsley ( Hand Loom Weaver) father Edward Laycock (bricklayer )  Witnesses Joseph William Laycock and Susan Wilkinson
Marriage date 13/3/1912 Farsley St John Yorkshire

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Re: Nellie Smith b1894
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 06 April 17 12:58 BST (UK) »
1901, RG13/4186 F 132 P 25

This looks like Harry with his parents and siblings

Edmund ? Laycock 33 Stone mason born Farsley
Martha 34 born Darlington
Joseph 11
Harry 9
Alice 5
Mary 3
Fred 1

All siblings born Farsley

Poss birth for Harry, 1891 Dec qtr Bradford, MMN Williams

Edmund Laycock married Martha Williams March qtr 1889 Bradford

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Census information is Crown Copyright,
from  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
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Re: Nellie Smith b1894
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 06 April 17 13:33 BST (UK) »
Army records for Harry Laycock states Nellie also took up with another man surname Wormald their child Mary Laycock was now in his mothers care at 23.Tennyson Street Farsley ..Son Clifford was with his mother Mrs N Laycock 71. Ilkley Road Otley ..

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Re: Nellie Smith b1894
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 06 April 17 15:33 BST (UK) »
There is a family tree on Ancestry but nothing about Nellie, seems she couldn't be found, although we can't publish it I would have thought I might have found her on 1911 and I could have continued back from there, no such luck

Her 2 sons
John Threlfall was born 09/07/1930 and died 1996 Lancaster

Robert born 12/02/1929 died 1997  Lancs

Still no joy with Nellie, pity she has the surname of Smith

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Census information is Crown Copyright,
from  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes

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Re: Nellie Smith b1894
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 06 April 17 23:17 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the information.

I haven't been able to find her on any census, though I do know that she worked as a domestic servant at the School House, East Road, Lancaster in 1920 at the time of her marriage to Robert Batty Threlfall.  After this time she 'went back on the road' travelling.

I shall get a copy of the Nellie Threlfall death certificate from 1962 to see if that throws out any more information.

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Re: Nellie Smith b1894
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 06 April 17 23:30 BST (UK) »
Her death cert is most unlikely to provide you with the type of information you need to research her ancestry

Was her 1920 marriage bigamous as I can't find a death for Harry Laycock prior to 1920 unless he died in WW1
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