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Re: Disappearing George Martin
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 09 April 17 11:49 BST (UK) »
Looks like the age for George Jr is wrong on the shipping manifest as he can be found with Alice in 1911, aged 6:

MARTIN, GEORGE ARTHUR   BAINES  1904  S Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 224 


MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Disappearing George Martin
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 09 April 17 11:54 BST (UK) »
Does anyone see a death for George in BC?

There's that one in Prince Rupert but that's a bit of a stretch.

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Re: Disappearing George Martin
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 09 April 17 12:20 BST (UK) »
No, I was looking last night but couldn't find anything. 

I did see an apparent 1905 baptism for a George Arthur Martin in Notre-Dame, Quebec though, son of Alside (?) & George, but unfortunately my French is non-existent.  Seems quite a coincidence but he didn't arrive until 1912 so without a translation I'm not sure.
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Disappearing George Martin
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 09 April 17 12:27 BST (UK) »
There's one in Vancouver 7 Jun 1931, George Martin aged 72  :-\
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.


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Re: Disappearing George Martin
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 09 April 17 12:46 BST (UK) »
No, I was looking last night but couldn't find anything. 

I did see an apparent 1905 baptism for a George Arthur Martin in Notre-Dame, Quebec though, son of Alside (?) & George, but unfortunately my French is non-existent.  Seems quite a coincidence but he didn't arrive until 1912 so without a translation I'm not sure.
No relation. :) Al(s/c)ide is the father. ;D

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Re: Disappearing George Martin
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 09 April 17 13:52 BST (UK) »
Thank you all so much for your input, I can't believe I'm finally getting somewhere with this mystery.

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Re: Disappearing George Martin
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 09 April 17 19:41 BST (UK) »
Ernest Percival Guy
of the Citadel ,Halifax
a shipwright
birth,Newcastle 10th Feb 1893
mother Mrs Martin, Constance Avenue Esquimault B.C
jULY 1916,on his enlistment

in 1922 he travels to Long Beach and names his brother Clement wife Mabel in England

his U.S draft papers give his mother Alice as his next of kin 2200 Delta Avenue Long Beach

possibly travels to England 8 Araley Grange Rise Leeds,with an Emma Guy in May 1958,
Montreal to Southampton,same birth date,


Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Disappearing George Martin
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 09 April 17 19:43 BST (UK) »
In theory your George then may have died between 1911 and 1921
unless of course Alice has no idea where he went
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Disappearing George Martin
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 09 April 17 20:32 BST (UK) »
Some interesting information on the T Harry Guy named by Alice as her contact in BC:

http://www.durhamatwar.org.uk/story/12735/

Added: His Canadian service record shows he had arranged for Alice to receive $10/month from his pay.  Not sure that proves anything, although her various addresses are given:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jw6/
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.