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Offline Stanza

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Cap Badge Identification?
« on: Wednesday 12 April 17 11:54 BST (UK) »
This is a photo of my Aunt Isabella Simpson, taken at some time during WW2.

Can anyone identify what regiment or unit she might have been serving in, from the cap badge or insignia? There is an unsubstantiated family story that she served as an ambulance driver, but the uniform suggests something more military.

She married a Canadian during the war and emigrated as a war bride, if that offers any clues.

All suggestions welcome. Thanks.
ABERDEENSHIRE: Simpson, Robb, Kelman, Gatt, Will, Ling, Henderson, Campbell, Stewart, Gordon
DUNBARTONSHIRE: Smith, Russell, Donald, Meiklem
GLASGOW: Guthrie
RENFREWSHIRE: Gilmour, Pollok, Urie
IRELAND: McIlhenny, McIlhaney
LANCASHIRE: Swainson, Baines
YORKSHIRE: Littlewood, Bastow/Barstow/Bairstow, Nussey, Haley, Wilkinson
WILTSHIRE: Marsh, Golding/Goulding/Golden/Goulden
DEVON: Perry, Hurford
BERKSHIRE: Chandler, Langley, Surman
AUSTRALIA: Poole, Surman, Miatke, Baum
GERMANY: Miatke, Baum

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Re: Cap Badge Identification?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 13:32 BST (UK) »
Good afternoon,

I can't make out the collar badges but I suspect that is because the photo is reversed, she is buttoned up manstyle. Her jacket should button the other way as womens jackets normally do.

That would put her hat badge on the right side, not british, canadian or us. No British cap badges like that either and none on line that I can see for Canada or US.

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Re: Cap Badge Identification?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 13:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that, John - a real woman of mystery then!
ABERDEENSHIRE: Simpson, Robb, Kelman, Gatt, Will, Ling, Henderson, Campbell, Stewart, Gordon
DUNBARTONSHIRE: Smith, Russell, Donald, Meiklem
GLASGOW: Guthrie
RENFREWSHIRE: Gilmour, Pollok, Urie
IRELAND: McIlhenny, McIlhaney
LANCASHIRE: Swainson, Baines
YORKSHIRE: Littlewood, Bastow/Barstow/Bairstow, Nussey, Haley, Wilkinson
WILTSHIRE: Marsh, Golding/Goulding/Golden/Goulden
DEVON: Perry, Hurford
BERKSHIRE: Chandler, Langley, Surman
AUSTRALIA: Poole, Surman, Miatke, Baum
GERMANY: Miatke, Baum

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Re: Cap Badge Identification?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 15:35 BST (UK) »
I think she has US's on her jacket collar. Certainly odd. Officer type uniform but buttons neither U.S. nor British. Canadian and British uniforms were almost identical apart from regimental titles. Canadian BD had a greenish tinge to it.

Captain Mainwaring's uniform was a Canadian version. It was widely used in British Home Guard. 
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Re: Cap Badge Identification?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 16:25 BST (UK) »
I don't believe the picture has been reversed, some women's uniform was worn that way, if you search for a pictures on Google  you can find  some.

HM The Queen in her ATS uniform is buttoned left to right, with medal ribbon correctly on the left breast.


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Re: Cap Badge Identification?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 16:33 BST (UK) »
As an ex WRAF who served into the 1970s - my uniform still buttoned up the male way.
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Re: Cap Badge Identification?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 18:18 BST (UK) »
I think she has US's on her jacket collar. Certainly odd. Officer type uniform but buttons neither U.S. nor British. Canadian and British uniforms were almost identical apart from regimental titles. Canadian BD had a greenish tinge to it.

Captain Mainwaring's uniform was a Canadian version. It was widely used in British Home Guard.

I am wondering if this was more in the nature of a fancy dress specifically cobbled together for the photograph.

The collar dogs do seem to be US, I can't make out the buttons, but the cap badge reminds me of the Polish eagle (although I can't identify a specific design).  Very odd.

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Re: Cap Badge Identification?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 19:57 BST (UK) »
Ellis (of) Glasgow was/is a long established firm of photographers. This photo could defy identification. The eagle cap badge is generically American. I can't find it under images. OP said she went to Canada.   
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Re: Cap Badge Identification?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 23:13 BST (UK) »
I appreciate the (several) responses so far, thanks for taking the time to provide these.

Obviously I've no way of knowing if Isabella just "made up" a uniform, but I must admit that looking at how well it all seems to fit her, and how well groomed she is, I would be surprised if it was just a ragbag of spare uniform parts! But maybe we'll never know.

All other suggestions are still welcome.
ABERDEENSHIRE: Simpson, Robb, Kelman, Gatt, Will, Ling, Henderson, Campbell, Stewart, Gordon
DUNBARTONSHIRE: Smith, Russell, Donald, Meiklem
GLASGOW: Guthrie
RENFREWSHIRE: Gilmour, Pollok, Urie
IRELAND: McIlhenny, McIlhaney
LANCASHIRE: Swainson, Baines
YORKSHIRE: Littlewood, Bastow/Barstow/Bairstow, Nussey, Haley, Wilkinson
WILTSHIRE: Marsh, Golding/Goulding/Golden/Goulden
DEVON: Perry, Hurford
BERKSHIRE: Chandler, Langley, Surman
AUSTRALIA: Poole, Surman, Miatke, Baum
GERMANY: Miatke, Baum