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Re: Bride's Parish
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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 13:16 BST (UK) »
Quote from: rebeccaclaire86 on Wednesday 12 April 17 13:14 BST (UK)
Thanks so much for all the responses, really appreciate the help!  Looks like it's a mistranscription of Brickendon then.  :)

Not so much a mistranscription as a variation in spelling, typical of the time.

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Re: Bride's Parish
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 22:41 BST (UK) »
Don't know if it helps

Hertford, is a town, three parishes, a sub-district, a district, and a hundred, in Hertfordshire. The tree parishes taking designation from Hertford All Saints, St. Andrew, and St. John

Honing in Ruskie's maps

Below Hertford - is Brickendon rural and St John Rural

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=15&lat=51.7776&lon=-0.0684&layers=171&right=BingHyb

Hertford - Brickendon urban & St John urban

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=15&lat=51.7972&lon=-0.0763&layers=171&right=BingHyb


'Liberty of Brickendon,' (fn. ...... reeve at a time when Hertford as a villa regalis was the administrative centre for the district. (villa reg / of Royal will admin / Royal [Regal] house estate admin)

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/herts/vol3/pp490-501

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=g7iNnoo-vHsC&q=Hertford+as+a+villa+regalis&dq=Hertford+as+a+villa+regalis&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y
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Re: Bride's Parish
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 13 April 17 05:27 BST (UK) »
It's extremely helpful, thank you Dobfarm.

Although the term originates a long time before the record in question, that Hertford was referred to as a Villa fits perfectly with our record.  It looks as though the London clergyman was being precise in his choice of words.

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« Reply #22 on: Thursday 13 April 17 09:35 BST (UK) »
Villa reg  - Is also found in some  parish registers (more 16/17th century but odd one on 18th century to pre 1812 registers on landed gentry estates admin shortened to Vill. (Sometimes thought 'of village' but if found the person of the event was a tenant farmer out in the country = 'of estate' Vill.)
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« Reply #23 on: Thursday 13 April 17 11:04 BST (UK) »

Very impressive work - well done horselydown86 and dobfarm

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Re: Bride's Parish
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 13 April 17 11:38 BST (UK) »
Quote from: ..claire.. on Thursday 13 April 17 11:04 BST (UK)

Very impressive work - well done horselydown86 and dobfarm

 :)

Hi Claire,

We only added too,

Ruskie:  did the main finding

Fair doo's
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« Reply #25 on: Thursday 13 April 17 13:09 BST (UK) »
And well done to everyone who contributed  :)

...especially Ruskie :)
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Re: Bride's Parish
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 13 April 17 13:50 BST (UK) »
Thank you, but I disagree.  ;)

It was Horseleydown and Dob who did the reading and interpreting of the text which answered the original question.  :)

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