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Crystal City birth 1886
« on: Wednesday 12 April 17 17:32 BST (UK) »
hi, i'm looking for any record of a birth in Crystal City in 1886. All I have is the following entries in UK census:
1891 - Nellie Hood - Niece - 5 years old - America, Crystal City - in household of Edward Murdy in Scarborough
1901 - Ellen Hood - Daughter - 15 years old - United States English Subject - in household of Faulkner Hood in Leicester

On the face of it, she would appear to be the daughter of Faulkner Hood (his correct name is actually Franklin Hood) and Mary Jane Hood (nee Murdy) but the fact she is referred to as niece in 1891 makes me suspect she may actually be the daughter of one of Franklin's relatives.
Thanks in advance

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Re: Crystal City birth 1886
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 17:48 BST (UK) »
Do you know what state Crystal City is in?  I've never heard of it, but Google tells me that there is a Crystal City in Missouri and one in Texas.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Crystal City birth 1886
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 22:33 BST (UK) »
I haven't heard of it either.

Do you know what happened to her - if she married a fathers name should be on the certificate.
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Re: Crystal City birth 1886
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 22:41 BST (UK) »
Could Edward Murdy and Mary Jane Hood nee Murdy be brother and sister then Nellie would be his niece?

Sorry I see he was her father so Nellie should be his granddaughter.
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Re: Crystal City birth 1886
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 13 April 17 09:04 BST (UK) »
Hello Erato and Milliepede. Regarding which Crystal City it is, I can only assume this actually refers to the area now falling just south of Washington. I will try and briefly explain why I think it is that one.
I already know that the Hood family had an earlier connection with Canada (which I am trying to explore on another board on Rootschat). In addition, again with help off here, it seems that soon after Franklin and Mary Jane (also referred to as Jennie) were married in 1884 in Scarborough, UK, they travelled over to New York. According to the ship manifest, they were destined for Baltimore which I believe is not very far away from Washington. It would seem that they only stayed in North America for a few years because they are back in England for the 1891 census, with Nellie/Ellen. My biggest hope had been trying to find a Hood family in Baltimore in the 1890 census but unfortunately most of those records have been lost, so hence I am now trying to find Ellen's birth's records.
Hope this ramble all makes sense!
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Re: Crystal City birth 1886
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 April 17 12:59 BST (UK) »
Is this the family of interest?  Did they have relatives in Baltimore? 

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-R3SS-PF?mode=g&i=625&cc=1849782
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Crystal City birth 1886
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 April 17 13:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Shelley, well that blows my theory straight out the water!
Maybe it is the one in Missouri as that is next closest although I've just done a bit of digging and came across this great article from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch (St. Louis, Missouri) · Sun, Jan 15, 1888 which describes it in not very flattering terms!
https://www.newspapers.com/image/138104856 (Copyright © 2017 Newspapers.com. All Rights Reserved)
And I've just noticed there's even one in Manitoba but the census entry I have definitely says United States. Back to the drawing board.
Thanks for the help.
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Re: Crystal City birth 1886
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 April 17 13:28 BST (UK) »
hi Erato,
yes that is my family. Frances was Franklin's mother (note she says she is a widow but I can't trace her husband, John's death even though I confirmed he was at the wedding of Franklin and Mary earlier that year) and David was Franklin's brother. I have to assume they had relatives in Baltimore but am unable to confirm yet  :(
Hood, Walker, Gibbons, Welch, Murdy, Male, Webb, Martin, Gostling, Easthope, Maddocks
Mostly from in and around the Birmingham area