Fuller family - Witham

[FNEVIK]

I am having trouble tracing the first wedding details for Samuel Henry Fuller, b. 1 March, 1835 in Witham.  He married for a second time in 1888 (24 Sep), in Islington, to Eliza Sally Harry.  On the marriage certificate he was listed as Widower.  I have lots of potential 'hits' coming up on Ancestry.co.uk but I can't possibly order lots of certificates to find the right one!  I assume he married in Essex.  But in Census searches I lose his trail too!!  His marriage would have a certificate and I assume he married in his 20s (1855 onwards).  If anyone can possibly help me make headway, I would really appreciate the help and advice.

[LizzieL]

In 1871 there's a Samuel Fuller b Witham abt 1835 living in Chigwell. He and his wife Mary are visitors with William and elizabeth hurt.
Mary was born in Birmingham.

Piece: 1638 Folio: 67 Page Number:1

[LizzieL]

What about

Marriages Jun 1860   

Samuel Henry Fuller  and Mary Taylor  Bromyard  6a 963 

[FNEVIK]

I ruled out the Samuel and Mary.  It looks like this was Samuel 'Pearce' Fuller who married Mary from Birmingham.  The second suggestion, I must admit, is on my shortlist.  I just wish there was a way of 'checking' without putting in an order for an actual certificate.  This is one of the most frustrating obstacles I have come up against.  But I guess it's "welcome to the world of researching family trees".  So far, I have guessed at some.  But I've been VERY lucky and 'hit the target' guessing correctly.  But my luck won't hold out for ever.

[cath151]

Hi
I see Samuels father was Nehemiah Fuller, Farrier and vet? surgeon on the marriage certificate.
He appears to have died in 1850 (newspaper)and was married to Hannah Fuller.
Samuels occupation was Gentleman( I think, shortened)
Samuel appears to be a blacksmith in 1851.
There is the following in 1861 which seems to be the same Samuel and Mary that LizzieL found albeit a possible first name but hard to read.
23 Kings Square, St Luke, London
RG09/202 57/22
Jas? Fuller head mar 26 Commercial Traveller Woollen Cloth  Witham, Essex.
Mary Fuller wife mar  24                                                      Birmingham, Warwickshire.
I saw the Bromyard marriage and wondered if it could be them, lots of sheep round there to tie in with woollen trade.
But as you say it may be the wrong couple.
Cathy

[LizzieL]

Samuel Pearce Fuller was about same age but born in Blockley Worcester not Witham, Essex. He married in Shoreditch district, banns also read in Allesley Worcester - Mary Jenkin's parish.

I still think Samuel in Chigwell is the right one

[FNEVIK]

I have had a good look at the 1861 Census return which was mentioned.  Why it looks like Jas, I don't know.  There is another 'Jas' just below.  The date fits, the birthplace fits.  If it is Mary, then there must a Death record between 1861 and 1888 for a Mary Fuller.  Another good fit, is that it is Finsbury.  On Samuel's second marriage cert. he lived at 79 Windsor Road and this is in Finsbury.  He got married at St Marys Islington, just around the corner. The first name spelling for Samuel beats me!  Victorian writing is so difficult to decipher sometimes.

[cath151]

 Same address as on marriage certificate.
1881 census
79 Windsor Road , Finsbury, Islington
RG11/277 26/45
Names hard to read
A? Fuller  head mar 43  Commercial traveller Wool Trade   Essex, Witham
Mary "     wife  mar   34                                                  Warwickshire, Birmingham
1 servant

Cathy
Transcribed Aymet T  Huller on FindMyPast

[LizzieL]

Good find, so that narrows down the date of Mary's death to post 1881 census to 1888